[At-Large] [GTLD-WG] Amazon, Google And Others Going After Generics

[Carlton Samuels]

The ALAC has been mulling over a few tidbits, one or so of which could be
used to amplify this.

I'm for further exploration towards maybe joint action.

- Carlton

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>wrote:

> Insofar as this frustration is shared by ALAC and NCSG and probably both
> would like to see the questions posed clearly and responded to in Prague,
> perhaps it'd be useful to discuss this at our Monday meeting with an eye
> toward some joint action?
>
> Bill
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>
> > I'd go for some combination of the first 3 reasons.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The results indicate one or more of a couple of causes, depending on
> >> perspective:
> >>
> >> - The ICANN publicity campaign for applicant support was so utterly
> >> pathetic, that only people already close to the process understood
> >> enough
> >> to take advantage of the opportunity;
> >>
> >> - It's official; ICANN is a rich world organization serving rich world
> >> players, and only plays lip service to a global scope. The applicant
> >> support program made for good optics, but ICANN had no interest in its
> >> actually working. That a handful of insiders were able to exploit,
> >> enables
> >> those inside the bubble to still pretend that ICANN has worldwide
> >> sensibilities.
> >>
> >> - Any claim that the bottom up process works, our that the public
> >> interest
> >> had a voice in ICANN, was definitively put to rest. This program was
> >> asserted on an unwilling Board, staff and industry by the public
> >> interest
> >> community, the first ever major policy initiative of this kind. So
> >> naturally, it never stood a chance.
> >>
> >> - There truly is no demand for gTLDs outside the ICANN bubble of
> >> speculators and name-protectors, along with a handful of internet
> >> infrastructure providers. Only insiders are deluded enough to perceive
> >> that
> >> ANY money given to ICANN is money well spent on improving access or
> >> development. Community organizers - especially the ones targeted for
> >> applicant support - would rather spend their limited funds locally. IOW
> >> ...  in the real world outside ICANN, gTLDs -- even subsidized -- are
> >> unnecessary vanity items that do not benefit providers or consumers of
> >> internet content and services.
> >>
> >> The first explanation indicates incompetent execution of ICANN's
> >> mandate.
> >> The second indicates an intolerable bias in interpreting the mandate.
> >> The
> >> third suggests a horrible breakdown in the governance of the mandate.
> >> And
> >> the fourth suggests that the mandate itself is fundamentally flawed.
> >>
> >> Take your pick. They're not mutually exclusive.
> >> On Jun 16, 2012 10:46 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The three support applications are particularly disappointing in
> >>> light of all three being from long-time ICANN participants.
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>> At 16/06/2012 01:15 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed, the outreach plan was a failure in so many respects, and
> >>>> people have been complaining about it for a while to no avail, even
> >>>> while there was still a chance to fix it. And we see the results: 17
> >>>> applications from Africa and 3 applicant support applications.  And
> >>>> while I was hopping that 10 - 20 of the applications would be from
> >>>> ASP applicants, I meant of the global total, not of the African
> >> total.
> >>>
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