[At-Large] [WHOIS-WG] Fwd: WHOIS Policy Review Team Final Report

Lutz Donnerhacke lutz at iks-jena.de
Tue May 15 20:23:15 UTC 2012

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 09:16:04AM -0700, Antony Van Couvering wrote:
> I don't know what Patrick was thinking, but it's possible he was referring
> to the fact that the ALAC position on Whois is nearly indistinguishable
> from the wish list of the trademark lobby

True ... sad, but true.

> The flaw in the position of the Whois Policy Review Team is quite simple:
> only the most idiotic of criminals would provide real Whois information,
> and without comparison of state-issued documents to registration
> information, there is no way to reliably check it.

That's only true with a thick whois model. The thin whois model, which
reveals the contract information down the reseller chain, is much more
stable and reliable even in the case of a "compromised" registar (might be
run by organized crime itself).

You might have a look at this thin whois model by asking whois.iana.org.

The real charm of this approach is, that the data does not need to leave the
place where they are needed to establish the business itself. So the access
restrictions can and must be derived from local law, which causes a much
better privacy protection (at least for EU) than an centralized thick whois
database, searchable by everyone who can pay or cry for.

Yes I do hear the cry for "use cases". So the suggestion came up to urge
ICANN to run a central, multilingual interface(!) to query and access the
distributed data sources.

Why should ICANN operate the service? Simply because they *have* the
contracts which allows them to query the databases at any rate and to any
detail level, they need. Nobody else can prevent to be blocked out by
various resellers or registrars. Such a block would render this interface

Unfortunly this recommendation did not make it to the final report, only a
crippled version dealing with an uninteresting case of gTLD strangeness.

I was unable to fight better for this idea. Sorry.

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