[At-Large] Guidance for Domain Name Orders

Franck Martin franck.martin at gmail.com
Thu Mar 15 03:40:19 UTC 2012

Oh, by the way once the email is sent you have about 12 hours to do something after that the miscreants have done enough gains and moved on.

Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question.

On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com> wrote:

> On 03/14/2012 06:38 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>> Karl, you skillfully are not answering the question.
> I wasn't trying to answer the question you asked but rather to clarify
> the assumptions in the situation that John L. posited.
> For your question - it seems that first we need to recognize that
> fraudsters are pretty clever and that we probably can't get rid of 'em
> entirely - all we can do is mitigate.
> So what can banks to do protect their customers against fraudulent
> emails that invite those customers to do something damaging?
> My sense is that the overall problem is that we value convenience over
> security - we've made it very easy for use to be fooled because we have
> removed seemingly inconvenient steps where security checks could be applied.
> Sure there are counter measures - education of users, a more complete
> crypto key system and actual use of mutual identification and
> authentication (which might require the acceptance of some sort of
> governmental or quasi-governmental lord-agency-of-identity.)
> Transaction limits and insurance can help too.
> But whatever those measures - the notion that we should shoot the
> accused before we measure the facts supporting the accusation - well
> that is a system that not only is contrary to our established sense of
> justice and process but it is also a process that can be manipulated by
> those who want to gain through the false accusation of innocents.
> As for ICANN - I find ICANN too quickly jumping into the role of
> enforcer on behalf of law investigative bodies.  By this I mean that
> ICANN is adopting policies in which inquiry and accusation result in
> execution of the accused without the burden of an actual fact finding
> trial or inquiry.
> Sure, such trials and inquiries are slow and can be expensive - but do
> we want to live on an internet without those trials and inquiries?  We
> ought to always remember that the next to be unjustly accused may be
> ourselves.
>        --karl--
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