[At-Large] US v John Doe 1 & Others [Defendants]
McTim
dogwallah at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 05:04:57 UTC 2011
On 11/28/11, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
<salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> At least you can read Dutch, I can't. This is why I think that the
> coordination mechanisms is interesting. Does the fact that the FBI has an
> MoU or Agreement with ISC or is authorised by the FBI give the requisite
> powers to the ISC?
IMO no, bu they can provide "remediation details".
>
>>
>> The RIPE NCC signs contracts with LIRs and end-users (people who get
>> Provider Independent space). "Cooperating with ISC" without a legal
>> order would have been a breach of that contract.
>>
>
> Yes, I agree. It will be interesting to watch the developments. Especially
> in light of how the European Court of Justice views the relevant laws.
Which relevant laws?
>
>>
>> In other words, ISC asking RIPE NCC to do something to someone else's
>> IP space would be the same as if you or I had asked them to do the
>> same.
>>
>> The only difference here is that it is not ISC asking, they are only
> acting out the Judge's orders. This brings back the question, whether they
> have the authority?
I would say no, the only party that has any standing with the RIPE NCC
is the Dutch police IMO.
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Cheers,
McTim
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