[At-Large] WHOIS must die

Bill Silverstein icann-list at sorehands.com
Sat Nov 26 13:49:46 UTC 2011

> On 11/25/2011 07:27 PM, Bill Silverstein wrote:
>>   I don't think that Karl is being paid, but is misguided.
> If my dislike of vigilante methods is "misguided" then I am very, very
> glad to be misguided.

"vigilante" - a private individual who legally or illegally punishes an
alleged lawbreaker, or participates in a group which metes out extralegal
punishment to an alleged lawbreaker. From Oxford English Dictionary.

Karl, you are misusing the term vigilante. The identification of a
wrongdoer is not punishment of the wrongdoer. My using whois information
as one part of the identification of a spammer so as to file lawsuits
against spammers is not extrajudicial. My using whois information to
gather information on a spammer, sufficient to bother law enforcement
authorities is not vigilantism.

> And I am very sad to learn that those who are, what is the opposite of
> "misguided"?  "guided"? .. That those who are "guided" apparently
> believe that everyone not waving their flag is a presumptive criminal
> who deserves no protection or rights.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

> Why do you shy from a procedure in which those who accuse would be
> required to identify themselves, to be required to state their accusal,
> and be required to provide at least a modicum of proof to support that
> accusal?
Because they are not accused. Because given the ease of having multiple
domain name names, and that having to do this for each domain name is
impracticable. This is moreso true where there is no requirement for
validating this information, except in China.

> Why do you shy from a principle which has been one of the foundation
> stones of western concepts of justice for centuries?
You are misstating the principal. As stated before, there are many places
where there are requirements of compelled disclosure when securing the
exclusive property rights rights, creating a new company, having a
publicly traded company.

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