[At-Large] U.S. seizure of .ORG domain name

Joly MacFie joly at punkcast.com
Tue Feb 8 08:53:26 UTC 2011


ICE boss John Morton gave the keynote at the recent Congressional Internet
Caucus Stae of the Net.

He starts talking about domain takedowns at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWZY_LujUhc&feature=player_detailpage#t=328s

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWZY_LujUhc&feature=player_detailpage#t=328s>*
In all cases they obtained illicit goods via the sites before obtaining
warrants.

* He says they served the registries.

* All seizures can be challenged in federal court.

* After they seized 8 sites in June, 81 more sites shut down voluntarily.

* One re-emerged under a different name. Working with UK police it was again
shutdown.

* Seizure banners have received 25m hits. Some sites got more hits after
seizure.

* After 131 referrals from industry they enforced 81 in November.  (81
obviously a magic number)

* Pirates don't pay taxes or health care, invest in America.

* Criticism provides publicity which is helpful..

* Not interested in limiting speech or due process

* Internet is not above the law.

Then, in answer to question, about whther this set a bad example for
Internet freedom in other countries.

* All except 5 sites were selling counterfeit hard goods.

* In the case of the 5 sites, special care taken to establish 1) content is
illicit, and 2) knowingly supplied, in order to obtain court order.

j

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

>  ICE press release here:
> http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1102/110202newyork.htm
>
> <http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1102/110202newyork.htm>j
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess, after reading
>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002323----000-.html that
>> there isn't much question that the USG has a legal  right to seize property,
>> but the question still arises when does linking constitute "distribution"..
>>
>> j
>>
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