[At-Large] Impressions from the Whois-Review

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Mon Jan 31 19:30:30 UTC 2011


hi,

Given that without proxies those honest citizens with registrations would be hanging out there with our privacy flapping in the breeze,. I think they are necessary until there is a proper and well formed WHOIS system that only gives access to such information to those authorities who have legal right to it.  Once, several years ago, we almost had agreement on such a system - the OPOC, but the compromise support was withdrawn because some parties wanted even more.

Proxies are the only way I have as a registrant to both give my accurate information and not be bombarded by all sort of people who want to misuse my information.

a.

On 31 Jan 2011, at 14:23, Omar Kaminski wrote:

> And how about the so called proxies?
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> Omar
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> 2011/1/31 Patrick Vande Walle <patrick at vande-walle.eu>:
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>> On 31 Jan 2011, at 20:01, Avri Doria wrote:
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>>>> This being said, I would tend to agree with Neil that the WHOIS might contain clues that eventually lead to the criminal. It is certainly useful to an extend to LEAs.
>>>> But that does not mean that the WHOIS should be open to all.  To take an example that has already been mentioned : the car registration plate databases are open to LEAs, possibly insurance companies, emergency services, etc. But these parties are clearly identified. This is not the case with the WHOIS. It is open to all, including the bad guys. The "good guys" that could justify a genuine interest to the WHOIS can certainly be identified and be granted unlimited WHOIS access.
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>>> I was with you until you said unlimited access.
>>> I would thank that rarely would anyone merit unlimited access. I would think most access would need to be subject to due process.
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>>> But certainly the idea that there are access rights that can be granted and withdrawn for specific purposes within the bounds of applicable law is reasonable.
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>> I meant  "access to the full set of data", as opposed to a very limited set of data that would be granted to Joe Public.  But indeed, there should be limits to the number of queries per day, for example. And of course, access could be revoked in case of "bad behaviour" (TBD).
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