[At-Large] [offlist] - RE: RES: 9th Circuit Court ruling on ICANN Contract.

Roberto Gaetano roberto at icann.org
Wed Jan 19 14:19:06 UTC 2011


Vanda,
I am not sure I understand what you would like me to do.
Cheers,
Roberto


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> [mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf 
> Of Vanda UOL
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:57
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> Subject: [At-Large] RES: 9th Circuit Court ruling on ICANN Contract.
> 
> Hi Roberto, agreeing with you, since I am from a country 
> where anonymousness is forbidden by the Constitution, and 
> this not means the information of anyone is public, for me it 
> sounds like the anonymousness just goes in the benefit of the 
> bad guy. Government - if there where lies the fear - has 
> thousands of opportunities to control the citizen´s life. 
> Once is not public other person will not be able to reach it. 
> Roberto, If you once understand it,  please public it to the 
> benefit of our knowledge.
> best. 
> 
> Vanda Scartezini
> Polo Consultores Associados
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> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de 
> Roberto Gaetano Enviada em: sábado, 8 de janeiro de 2011 20:38
> Para: 'At-Large Worldwide'
> Assunto: Re: [At-Large] 9th Circuit Court ruling on ICANN Contract.
> 
> Happy new year to all.
> Let me add a late comment to this thread.
> I believe that the registration of a domain requires the 
> owner of the domain to correctly identify oneself to the 
> registering authority, but that this information does not 
> need necessarily to be public.
> This is not a new debate, but it still comes in waves, 
> without substantial changes in the opinions of the different 
> parties. Years ago, I think it was at the Tunis/Carthage 
> (2003?), we had this discussion and I replied to Marilyn Cade 
> making the example of car registration: a car owner is 
> obliged to provide complete and accurate information to the 
> registration authority, but this information is not 
> necessarily public. Actually, I am not aware of any national 
> car registry in which you can access this information without 
> proving that you need it, and qualify yourself.
> I have not yet heard a convincing argument on why the domain 
> names have to be treated differently.
> Cheers,
> Roberto
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > [mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bill 
> > Silverstein
> > Sent: Friday, 24 December 2010 00:32
> > To: At-Large Worldwide
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] 9th Circuit Court ruling on ICANN Contract.
> > 
> > > On 12/22/2010 10:40 AM, Bill Silverstein wrote:
> > >
> > >> It is not vigilante justice to know the identity of the
> > owner of  a
> > >> domain name.
> > >
> > > Oh yes indeed it is.  It is most definitely vigilante
> > action to take
> > > away the right of an accused - merely on the basis of that
> > accusation.
> > > In this case the rights are those of privacy and due process.
> > >
> > 
> > Oh no. You are inserting a right here where there is none. 
> > The right to privacy regarding the ownership of a domain name. 
> > Anonymous speech does not equate to anonymous domain name 
> > registration.
> > 
> > 
> > The registration of a domain requires the owner of the domain to 
> > correctly identify oneself to the public when registering 
> the domain 
> > name.
> > 
> > 
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