[At-Large] ICANN Board Nomination

Vanda UOL vanda at uol.com.br
Tue Sep 14 15:00:07 UTC 2010

Board payment is a difficult issue. In several not for profit organizations
board member are receiving only by the days they fully dedicated to the
organizations, (as happened to representatives and senators when they are
called to participate during off days in a special meeting) and this would
happen only during the meetings ( normally work starts on Saturday and ends
at night at next Friday), and during the retreats. 
That the only occasions I can see remuneration for the board be approved
while the organization is under the not for profit organization status &
under California legal framework. They are compensate for their time. Some
organizations also pays for the travelling days in a reduced basis.

 Vanda Scartezini
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The point I am trying to make is that ICANN board membership is not supposed
to be the DAY Job. If it has got to the point that for the work to be doable
then it has to become the day job then this changes a fundamental
precondition for what ICANN board membership was designed to involve. The
implication being that you can't just go and start paying the board without
looking at the impact this will have on the broader design of ICANN. i.e.,
this could get messy. 

On the issue of Trust or trust.  

It is amazing how fast people wish to submarine into a semantic discussion
rather than one of substance. The issue is not how ICANN is structurally
shoehorned into one particular jurisdiction's world view. It is about
whether the public out there in the whole wide world believe ICANN is
trustworthy to co-ordinate between the managers of the unique Internet
resources entrusted to it (co-ordinate not manage and especially not govern
please note!). 

The term trust is meant in this broader perhaps political than legal sense.
The board has a role in protecting this trust. A very large part of that job
is to rein in the tendency for mission creep very evident today. 

I might also add that there is considerable precedence for unpaid board
members in the Internet sphere. Most Internet organisations have volunteer
unpaid boards made up from professionals or similarly skilled.  The origin
of ICANN is from this tradition which is still widespread. 

So lies another niggle I have with the idea of paying the ICANN board. It
further removes ICANN at least culturally from the rest of the Internet
sphere of activities of which it is supposed to be just a part. I am not
against people being paid but I am concerned enough by the idea of rubber
stamping a salary culture at ICANN board level to raise some questions. 

best regards


P.S., You are correct. I was describing a redefinition of how a Supporting
Organisation interfaces with ICANN to show one (speculative and not entirely
happy) way that might keep board members paid at arms length of the ICANN
purse strings bolstering the public sense of trust in their good auspices.
I was not describing the SO situation as of today nor suggesting this is a
practical measure as things are now. i.e., it is going to be very hard to
pay board members and find a way to balance the public benefit part of their
remit which I think is necessary for long term stability. 

On 13 Sep 2010, at 11:51, Jacqueline Morris wrote:

> I don't think they are. "Supporting Organisation" in ICANN parlance means
> something very different from what I think you assume here. The Board
> members are NOT required to be "paid professionals"  - at least in this
> field. They can be professionals in other areas with an interest and
> expertise in ICANN issues, but that doesn't have to be their primary
> They are not designed to be financially supported by the SOs, NomCom and
> Advisory Committees who nominate them.
> They are not "trustees" either - the 2 are different, carry different
> obligations and so on.
> Jacqueline
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Christian de Larrinaga
> <cdel at firsthand.net>wrote:
>> Christian
>> P.S., ICANN board members are supposed to be paid professionals selected
>> supporting organisations. The operative word here is "support". They
>> support (sponsor) the trustees they select even if they vote as
>> they still have the placement.
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