[AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 189, Issue 22

ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
Mon Jul 18 22:06:36 UTC 2022


Hi Chokri,
I would have to go with the majority on this. I hope you understand my poin.
Cheers

AK

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 1:05 PM Chokri Ben Romdhane via AFRI-Discuss <
afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:

> Dear Abdolkarim,
> I know very well that you are doing an excellent  job as UA acceptance
> ambassador  and within Epdp IDN WG, and I would like to thank you for
>  your efforts, I personally have an objection on the title of the Topic you
> have proposed because  it make a relation between IDN variants and DNS
> Abuse, which is not a confirmed conclusion!
> So I'm with keeping the  title   of the topic "
> *Universal Acceptance acceptance as a means of accessing the internet in
> local languages."*
> and we can discuss the points that we have to highlight for both the Board
> and the ICANN community with the draft team.
> Friendly regards
> *Chokri*
>
> Le lun. 18 juil. 2022 à 12:40, <
> afri-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
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>>    1. Re: AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 189, Issue 15 (ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
>> To: Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 12:39:52 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 189, Issue 15
>> Dear Chokri,
>> Thanks for your response.
>> However, Universal Acceptance (UA) ensures that all domain names,
>> including new top-level domains (TLDs), IDN and email addresses are treated
>> equally and can be used by all Internet-enabled applications, devices, and
>> systems. This is the scope of UA. EAI if you mean Email Address
>> Internationalization. yes this is part of UA, and again like I said,
>> Raymond is right with his topic, but I was just trying to ensure that we
>> deal with real issues that require ICANN's attention based on my little
>> experience as a UA ambassador and also your representative on the ICANN
>> EPDP on IDN. ICANN already knows the importance of IDN so we don't need to
>> overflog that to them. That is why they fund UA and also set up the EPDP on
>> IDN. However I might be wrong if the essence of the topic is for community
>> awareness not for the attention of the ICANN board.
>> I hope you get what I mean.
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> AK
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 9:09 PM Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Abdulkarim,
>>> Thank you very much for your valuable inputs,
>>> If I probably agree with you that a lot of african  local languages are
>>> not yet  accepted by LRoot  and it's really a challenge for both African
>>> and global ICANN technical community to resolve this issues, and the
>>> statement that we have to develop for the ICANN75 may stress on this issues
>>> In another hand I totally disagree with you to change the title of the
>>> topic to the IDN and the non proved or non confirmed relation or
>>> association between IDN variant and DNS abuse!
>>> As surely know that UA i s not limited to the IDN ,  the  EAI is another
>>> aspect of UA advocated by community members which constitue an opportunity
>>> for African people to use their local languages and open the door for a lot
>>> of opportunities to local business.
>>>
>>> Friendly regards
>>> Chokri
>>>
>>>
>>> Le sam. 16 juil. 2022 à 08:18, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <
>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>  Raymond has suggested a very good topic, but I want to in a way,
>>>> modify the topic cos the aim of the statement is to bring the attention of
>>>> the board and community to a particular issue, and when it comes to UA, I
>>>> think one issue we need to bring to the attention of all is one of the
>>>> challenges that might be faced by all but more importantly Africans when it
>>>> comes to the implementation of IDN. Therefore  I would like to modify the
>>>> topic to be ' Internationalised Domain Names: Can this increase DNS abuse?"
>>>>
>>>> Let me provide some background to this:
>>>>
>>>> DNS abuse may or may not likely increase with IDNs  (no one can be sure
>>>> for now), and it is possible that Africans might be at the receiving end.
>>>> This is because if IDNs are not properly managed, it will become more
>>>> difficult to recognise a fake or imitated domain. This is because, with
>>>> IDNs, a  .(dot) can make a difference depending on the language. This might
>>>> lead to an increase in the lack of confidence in the use of the internet,
>>>> especially in our part of the world where internet adoption is low. Also,
>>>> we have a large percentage of those who are uneducated; therefore difficult
>>>> for them to recognise these little differences.  Therefore I think we need
>>>> to ask ICANN to also consider this issue critically either by conducting
>>>> research amog other things.
>>>>
>>>> Also, even with IDNs coming up there are still a lot of African
>>>> languages that are not supported at the moment cos of the Root Zone level
>>>> generation zone (RZ-LGR), so we need to also call attention to this.
>>>> I think this is important at this time cos the EPDP on IDN is currently
>>>> on and there is a need to bring to their attention the challenges that we
>>>> as Africans might face with IDNs.
>>>>
>>>> AK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:10 PM Dave Kissoondoyal via AFRI-Discuss <
>>>> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do support the proposal from Raymond and would like to be part of
>>>>> the drafting team as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/07/2022 14:52, Chokri Ben Romdhane via AFRI-Discuss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Abdelljalil and friends,
>>>>> I totally support @Raymond Mamattah <mamattah.raymond at gmail.com>
>>>>> proposal and I think that promoting our local language by advocating
>>>>> Universal acceptance concepts and tools is a key to success for our region.
>>>>> So please count me in the Draft team.
>>>>> Friendly regards
>>>>> Chokri
>>>>>
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>>>>>>    1. Re: Reminder: Call for Topic: Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting -
>>>>>>       ICANN 75 AGM / appel ? proposition de th?mes pour la R?union
>>>>>>       Conjointe AFRALO-AfrICANN - Forum de l'ICANN 75 (Raymond
>>>>>> Mamattah)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Raymond Mamattah <mamattah.raymond at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <abdeldjalil.bachar at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, aziz hilali
>>>>>> <abdelaziz.hilali at gmail.com>, AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 10:14:42 +0000
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] Reminder: Call for Topic: Joint
>>>>>> AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting - ICANN 75 AGM / appel à proposition de thèmes pour
>>>>>> la Réunion Conjointe AFRALO-AfrICANN - Forum de l'ICANN 75
>>>>>> Hello Abdeldjalil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kindly add me to the drafting team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My suggestion for the topic is: *Universal Acceptance acceptance as
>>>>>> a means of accessing the internet in local languages.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is important most especially as several local languages are in
>>>>>> our region and if people can access the internet in their local languages,
>>>>>> this will bridge the digital divide gap and improve on digital inclusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Raymond Mamattah
>>>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/RMamattah> [image: facebook]
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/selorm.mamattah> [image: linkedin]
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-selorm-mamattah-02637610/>
>>>>>> Accra, Ghana
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 8:14 PM Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong via
>>>>>> AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear community members
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope you are doing better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder to please send your choice of the Topic
>>>>>>> and volunteer for drafting by Saturday 16 July 2022.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * En français*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chers membres de la communauté AFRALO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nous espérons que ce message vous trouve très bien.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ceci est un rappel amical pour envoyer votre choix de sujet et vous
>>>>>>> porter volontaire pour la rédaction d'ici le Samedi 16 Juillet 2022.
>>>>>>> Dans l'attente de vos nouvelles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Merci beaucoup!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mer. 6 juil. 2022 à 12:16, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <
>>>>>>> abdeldjalil.bachar at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> English
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> En français en bas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Community members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We hope this email finds you well and in good health.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ICANN75 Annual General Meeting is scheduled to hold from 17-22
>>>>>>>> September 2022 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This meeting  will take place as a hybrid event
>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann75-annual-general-meeting-location-announced-7-8-2020-en
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As usual, we plan to hold the Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting and as
>>>>>>>> we are so close to the date of meeting, we would like to invite  you  to
>>>>>>>> urgently submit topics for this session.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For your information our previous statements have focused on issues
>>>>>>>> like: Domain Name System (DNS) Abuse, Universal Acceptance,
>>>>>>>> evolving the ICANN Multistakeholder model, General Data Protection
>>>>>>>> Regulation (GDPR), New gTLD Subsequent Procedures, enhancing ICANN
>>>>>>>> accountability, etc. Please see our previous statements here
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Joint+AFRALO-AfrICANN+Statements+Workspace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These wide ranges of topics mentioned above are given as examples.
>>>>>>>> Of course, you may suggest other topics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As is the norm, the topic that receives the most support will be
>>>>>>>> selected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Please see our proposed timeline:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 06- 16 July 2022: Call for topics and drafting team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 17 July 2022: Announcement of Selected topic & drafting team
>>>>>>>> composition
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 18 – 26 July 2022: First Draft of Statement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ·   27 July - 02 August 2022: Second Draft of Statement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 03 August  2022: Statement translation and sending to Staff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kindly send your suggested topics and volunteer for drafting by
>>>>>>>> Saturday 16 July 2022, after which the drafting team will be constituted to
>>>>>>>> prepare a draft statement that will be shared with the rest of the members.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you would like to join the drafting team, kindly notify us via
>>>>>>>> the mailing list or to me directly off list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward to your contributions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AFRALO Secrétariat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (On behalf of AFRALO Leadership Team)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> FRENCH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chers membres de la communauté,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nous espérons que cet e-mail vous trouvera en bonne santé.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> La réunion générale annuelle de l'ICANN75 est prévue du 17 au 22
>>>>>>>> Septembre 2022 à Kuala Lumpur, en Malaisie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cette réunion se tiendra du dans un format hybride
>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/fr/announcements/details/registration-for-icann74-policy-forum-in-the-hague-netherlands-is-now-open-31-03-2022-fr
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Nous prévoyons de tenir la réunion conjointe AFRALO-AfrICANN et
>>>>>>>> nous aimerions vous inviter à travers cet appel à soumettre vos
>>>>>>>> thèmes/sujets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nous avons un délai très court pour la prochaine réunion .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pour votre information, les déclarations précédentes se sont
>>>>>>>> concentrées sur des sujets tels que: l'abus du Système de Noms de Domaine
>>>>>>>> (DNS), l'Acceptation Universelle (AU), l'évolution du modèle multipartite
>>>>>>>> de l'ICANN, le RGPD, les procédures ultérieures des nouveaux gTLD, le
>>>>>>>> Processus Accéléré de développement de politiques (EPDP), l’amélioration de
>>>>>>>> la responsabilité de l'ICANN,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ce large éventail de thèmes mentionnés ci-dessus est donné à titre
>>>>>>>> d'exemple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vous pouvez bien entendu suggérer d'autres sujets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comme c'est la norme, le sujet qui recevra le plus de soutien sera
>>>>>>>> sélectionné.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Veuillez consulter les déclarations précédentes sur ce lien
>>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Joint+AFRALO-AfrICANN+Statements+Workspace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Veuillez consulter le calendrier proposé:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 06-16  Juillet 2022 : Appel à proposition des sujets/thèmes et de
>>>>>>>> l’équipe de rédaction;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 17 Juillet 2022 : annonce du sujet sélectionné et constitution de
>>>>>>>> l'équipe de rédaction;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 18 - 26  Juillet 2022 : Premier projet (brouillon) de déclaration;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 27  Juillet- 02 Août 2022 : deuxième ébauche de déclaration;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> · 03 Août  2022 : Traduction de la déclaration et envoi au
>>>>>>>> personnel de l’ICANN;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Veuillez envoyer vos suggestions de sujets et vous porter
>>>>>>>> volontaire pour la rédaction d'ici le Samedi 16 Juillet 2022, après quoi
>>>>>>>> l'équipe de rédaction sera constituée pour préparer un projet de
>>>>>>>> déclaration qui sera partagé avec le reste des membres.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Si vous souhaitez rejoindre l'équipe de rédaction, veuillez nous en
>>>>>>>> informer hors liste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dans l'attente de vos contributions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincères amitiés,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secrétariat d’AFRALO
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Au nom du Bureau d'AFRALO)
>>>>>>>>
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