[AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 189, Issue 22

Chokri Ben Romdhane chokribr at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 12:03:59 UTC 2022


Dear Abdolkarim,
I know very well that you are doing an excellent  job as UA acceptance
ambassador  and within Epdp IDN WG, and I would like to thank you for
 your efforts, I personally have an objection on the title of the Topic you
have proposed because  it make a relation between IDN variants and DNS
Abuse, which is not a confirmed conclusion!
So I'm with keeping the  title   of the topic "
*Universal Acceptance acceptance as a means of accessing the internet in
local languages."*
and we can discuss the points that we have to highlight for both the Board
and the ICANN community with the draft team.
Friendly regards
*Chokri*

Le lun. 18 juil. 2022 à 12:40, <afri-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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>    1. Re: AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 189, Issue 15 (ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
> To: Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com>
> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 12:39:52 +0100
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 189, Issue 15
> Dear Chokri,
> Thanks for your response.
> However, Universal Acceptance (UA) ensures that all domain names,
> including new top-level domains (TLDs), IDN and email addresses are treated
> equally and can be used by all Internet-enabled applications, devices, and
> systems. This is the scope of UA. EAI if you mean Email Address
> Internationalization. yes this is part of UA, and again like I said,
> Raymond is right with his topic, but I was just trying to ensure that we
> deal with real issues that require ICANN's attention based on my little
> experience as a UA ambassador and also your representative on the ICANN
> EPDP on IDN. ICANN already knows the importance of IDN so we don't need to
> overflog that to them. That is why they fund UA and also set up the EPDP on
> IDN. However I might be wrong if the essence of the topic is for community
> awareness not for the attention of the ICANN board.
> I hope you get what I mean.
> Thanks
>
>
> AK
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 9:09 PM Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Abdulkarim,
>> Thank you very much for your valuable inputs,
>> If I probably agree with you that a lot of african  local languages are
>> not yet  accepted by LRoot  and it's really a challenge for both African
>> and global ICANN technical community to resolve this issues, and the
>> statement that we have to develop for the ICANN75 may stress on this issues
>> In another hand I totally disagree with you to change the title of the
>> topic to the IDN and the non proved or non confirmed relation or
>> association between IDN variant and DNS abuse!
>> As surely know that UA i s not limited to the IDN ,  the  EAI is another
>> aspect of UA advocated by community members which constitue an opportunity
>> for African people to use their local languages and open the door for a lot
>> of opportunities to local business.
>>
>> Friendly regards
>> Chokri
>>
>>
>> Le sam. 16 juil. 2022 à 08:18, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <
>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> a écrit :
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>  Raymond has suggested a very good topic, but I want to in a way, modify
>>> the topic cos the aim of the statement is to bring the attention of the
>>> board and community to a particular issue, and when it comes to UA, I think
>>> one issue we need to bring to the attention of all is one of the challenges
>>> that might be faced by all but more importantly Africans when it comes to
>>> the implementation of IDN. Therefore  I would like to modify the topic to
>>> be ' Internationalised Domain Names: Can this increase DNS abuse?"
>>>
>>> Let me provide some background to this:
>>>
>>> DNS abuse may or may not likely increase with IDNs  (no one can be sure
>>> for now), and it is possible that Africans might be at the receiving end.
>>> This is because if IDNs are not properly managed, it will become more
>>> difficult to recognise a fake or imitated domain. This is because, with
>>> IDNs, a  .(dot) can make a difference depending on the language. This might
>>> lead to an increase in the lack of confidence in the use of the internet,
>>> especially in our part of the world where internet adoption is low. Also,
>>> we have a large percentage of those who are uneducated; therefore difficult
>>> for them to recognise these little differences.  Therefore I think we need
>>> to ask ICANN to also consider this issue critically either by conducting
>>> research amog other things.
>>>
>>> Also, even with IDNs coming up there are still a lot of African
>>> languages that are not supported at the moment cos of the Root Zone level
>>> generation zone (RZ-LGR), so we need to also call attention to this.
>>> I think this is important at this time cos the EPDP on IDN is currently
>>> on and there is a need to bring to their attention the challenges that we
>>> as Africans might face with IDNs.
>>>
>>> AK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:10 PM Dave Kissoondoyal via AFRI-Discuss <
>>> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I do support the proposal from Raymond and would like to be part of the
>>>> drafting team as well.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15/07/2022 14:52, Chokri Ben Romdhane via AFRI-Discuss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Abdelljalil and friends,
>>>> I totally support @Raymond Mamattah <mamattah.raymond at gmail.com>
>>>> proposal and I think that promoting our local language by advocating
>>>> Universal acceptance concepts and tools is a key to success for our region.
>>>> So please count me in the Draft team.
>>>> Friendly regards
>>>> Chokri
>>>>
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>>>>>    1. Re: Reminder: Call for Topic: Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting -
>>>>>       ICANN 75 AGM / appel ? proposition de th?mes pour la R?union
>>>>>       Conjointe AFRALO-AfrICANN - Forum de l'ICANN 75 (Raymond
>>>>> Mamattah)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Raymond Mamattah <mamattah.raymond at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <abdeldjalil.bachar at gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, aziz hilali <
>>>>> abdelaziz.hilali at gmail.com>, AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 10:14:42 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] Reminder: Call for Topic: Joint
>>>>> AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting - ICANN 75 AGM / appel à proposition de thèmes pour
>>>>> la Réunion Conjointe AFRALO-AfrICANN - Forum de l'ICANN 75
>>>>> Hello Abdeldjalil,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly add me to the drafting team.
>>>>>
>>>>> My suggestion for the topic is: *Universal Acceptance acceptance as a
>>>>> means of accessing the internet in local languages.*
>>>>>
>>>>> This is important most especially as several local languages are in
>>>>> our region and if people can access the internet in their local languages,
>>>>> this will bridge the digital divide gap and improve on digital inclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Raymond Mamattah
>>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/RMamattah> [image: facebook]
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/selorm.mamattah> [image: linkedin]
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-selorm-mamattah-02637610/>
>>>>> Accra, Ghana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 8:14 PM Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong via
>>>>> AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear community members
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope you are doing better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder to please send your choice of the Topic
>>>>>> and volunteer for drafting by Saturday 16 July 2022.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * En français*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chers membres de la communauté AFRALO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nous espérons que ce message vous trouve très bien.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ceci est un rappel amical pour envoyer votre choix de sujet et vous
>>>>>> porter volontaire pour la rédaction d'ici le Samedi 16 Juillet 2022.
>>>>>> Dans l'attente de vos nouvelles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Merci beaucoup!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le mer. 6 juil. 2022 à 12:16, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <
>>>>>> abdeldjalil.bachar at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> English
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> En français en bas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Community members,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We hope this email finds you well and in good health.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ICANN75 Annual General Meeting is scheduled to hold from 17-22
>>>>>>> September 2022 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This meeting  will take place as a hybrid event
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann75-annual-general-meeting-location-announced-7-8-2020-en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As usual, we plan to hold the Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting and as
>>>>>>> we are so close to the date of meeting, we would like to invite  you  to
>>>>>>> urgently submit topics for this session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For your information our previous statements have focused on issues
>>>>>>> like: Domain Name System (DNS) Abuse, Universal Acceptance,
>>>>>>> evolving the ICANN Multistakeholder model, General Data Protection
>>>>>>> Regulation (GDPR), New gTLD Subsequent Procedures, enhancing ICANN
>>>>>>> accountability, etc. Please see our previous statements here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Joint+AFRALO-AfrICANN+Statements+Workspace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These wide ranges of topics mentioned above are given as examples.
>>>>>>> Of course, you may suggest other topics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As is the norm, the topic that receives the most support will be
>>>>>>> selected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Please see our proposed timeline:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 06- 16 July 2022: Call for topics and drafting team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 17 July 2022: Announcement of Selected topic & drafting team
>>>>>>> composition
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 18 – 26 July 2022: First Draft of Statement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ·   27 July - 02 August 2022: Second Draft of Statement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 03 August  2022: Statement translation and sending to Staff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kindly send your suggested topics and volunteer for drafting by
>>>>>>> Saturday 16 July 2022, after which the drafting team will be constituted to
>>>>>>> prepare a draft statement that will be shared with the rest of the members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you would like to join the drafting team, kindly notify us via
>>>>>>> the mailing list or to me directly off list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to your contributions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFRALO Secrétariat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (On behalf of AFRALO Leadership Team)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>>>> FRENCH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chers membres de la communauté,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nous espérons que cet e-mail vous trouvera en bonne santé.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> La réunion générale annuelle de l'ICANN75 est prévue du 17 au 22
>>>>>>> Septembre 2022 à Kuala Lumpur, en Malaisie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cette réunion se tiendra du dans un format hybride
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/fr/announcements/details/registration-for-icann74-policy-forum-in-the-hague-netherlands-is-now-open-31-03-2022-fr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Nous prévoyons de tenir la réunion conjointe AFRALO-AfrICANN et
>>>>>>> nous aimerions vous inviter à travers cet appel à soumettre vos
>>>>>>> thèmes/sujets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nous avons un délai très court pour la prochaine réunion .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pour votre information, les déclarations précédentes se sont
>>>>>>> concentrées sur des sujets tels que: l'abus du Système de Noms de Domaine
>>>>>>> (DNS), l'Acceptation Universelle (AU), l'évolution du modèle multipartite
>>>>>>> de l'ICANN, le RGPD, les procédures ultérieures des nouveaux gTLD, le
>>>>>>> Processus Accéléré de développement de politiques (EPDP), l’amélioration de
>>>>>>> la responsabilité de l'ICANN,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ce large éventail de thèmes mentionnés ci-dessus est donné à titre
>>>>>>> d'exemple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vous pouvez bien entendu suggérer d'autres sujets.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Veuillez consulter le calendrier proposé:
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>>>>>>> l’équipe de rédaction;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 17 Juillet 2022 : annonce du sujet sélectionné et constitution de
>>>>>>> l'équipe de rédaction;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 18 - 26  Juillet 2022 : Premier projet (brouillon) de déclaration;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 27  Juillet- 02 Août 2022 : deuxième ébauche de déclaration;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · 03 Août  2022 : Traduction de la déclaration et envoi au personnel
>>>>>>> de l’ICANN;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Veuillez envoyer vos suggestions de sujets et vous porter volontaire
>>>>>>> pour la rédaction d'ici le Samedi 16 Juillet 2022, après quoi l'équipe de
>>>>>>> rédaction sera constituée pour préparer un projet de déclaration qui sera
>>>>>>> partagé avec le reste des membres.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Si vous souhaitez rejoindre l'équipe de rédaction, veuillez nous en
>>>>>>> informer hors liste.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dans l'attente de vos contributions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincères amitiés,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Secrétariat d’AFRALO
>>>>>>>
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