[AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 159, Issue 18
Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi
Hadia at tra.gov.eg
Wed Jan 15 12:21:24 UTC 2020
+1 This is indeed an important issue to address.
Hadia
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Dear Tijani and colleagues,
This is noted with thanks, we can frame the topic in way that has the most impact. My thoughts are if we don't address the issue in the long term, out Governments will step in and we know what that means.
Regards
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 6:03 pm Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn<mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>> wrote:
Thank you Barrack for your proposal.
DNS Abuse is indeed one of the hottest topics at ICANN today.
As you know, the spirit of the AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting is to build an African community opinion about a hot topic at ICANN and formulate it in a statement that we send to the ICANN Board and the concerned parties to make our voice heard and to give us more credibility and more visibility.
"Building the Capacity of end users to curb DNS Abuse is Africa" isn't a hot topic for ICANN that will permit us build a position on it and send it to the ICANN Board. I propose to address the main topic of DNS Abuse.
I hope this can help.
Tijani
Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com<mailto:olivierkouami at gmail.com>> a écrit :
Greetings from Cotonou Bénin
+1 @Barrack proposal.
. please could I add another topic ?
If yes, please do note this
"How the ICANN multi-stakeholder model works: end-user view.''
Thank you
Olévié KOUAMI
Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 19:13, Punana Lebo via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> a écrit :
I concur with Barrack's suggestion on capacity building on 'DNS abuse' to the end users
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+1 to Barrack's proposal.
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 5:42 AM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Sarah and colleagues,
I would like to propose the following topic;
Building the Capacity of end users to curb DNS Abuse is Africa.
Regards
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:57 pm Robert Nkambwe via AFRI-Discuss, <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> wrote:
Thanks for sharing Sarah.
Robert
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I hope this email finds you well. The ICANN67 Meeting is scheduled for March 7 - 12, 2020 in Cancún, Mexico. As with previous ICANN meetings, we plan to hold the Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting. We would like to invite you to submit topics for this session. Our previous statements have focused on issues like: evolving the ICANN Multistakeholder model, New gTLD Subsequent Procedures, enhancing ICANN accountability, etc. Please see our previous statements here<https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Joint+AFRALO-AfrICANN+Statements+Workspace>.
Please see our proposed timeline:
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Good points Mark and El,
I think the end user has been missing in the DNS Security conversation yet they are actually the ones who speak with their pockets, if i may use a Kenyan Proverb. An enlightened end user is an empowered end user. As we bring the next billion users online cases of DNS abuse will definately increase. If governments feel that industry players have not control they will definately step in and thats what we are avoiding.
Regards
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, 4:55 pm Dr Eberhard W Lisse, <el at lisse.na<mailto:el at lisse.na>> wrote:
Gabdibé,
drafting a resolution (beforehand), or even debating a resolution, is
going to achieve absolutely nothing.
Mark,
50% lookups is actually almost worth than zero :-)-).
And how many of those hit infrastructure actually in South Africa?
Does the figure include the public ones from Google and Cloudflare?
My view is that this only works All-or-Nothing, because noncompliant
commercial resolver operators have a commercial advantage over
complaint ones.
Financial incentives may work as may financial or other sanctions.
One could even make it part of the Accreditation that DNSSEC must be
offered by the Registrars.
But while the Registrars are usually the entities operating the DNS
and as such have control over the end-user's DNS anyway, the chain
of trust should go up to the end user and not just the Registrar.
Talking to the banks has so far not been very effective, they are
happy with HTTPS even though they forget to renew their certificate
on a regular basis, never mind the expense.
I don't have the answer either.
If anyone has a technical "solution" or project going on, and is coming
to Cancun, please feel free to propose a presentation at TechDay on the
Monday.
greetings, el
On 10/01/2020 15:26, Mark Elkins wrote:
> I also like the sound of Barrack's proposal. What exactly does "DNS
> Abuse" mean though?
>
> If it is to try and get all important Domains DNSSEC Signed and for
> all DNS Resolvers to become DNSSEC aware - that would be a winner in
> my book!
>
> Incidentally - about 50% of all DNS lookups in South Africa are DNSSEC
> aware. That's actually the easy bit. Just have the Internet
> Connection suppliers enable DNSSEC on their resolvers.
>
> Getting the bulk or at least the important Domains DNSSEC Signed will
> be a bit more challenging but is quite possible; e.g. any domain for a
> website which may involve a financial transaction or deal with
> personal information.
>
> On my Domain Registration and Hosting Platform, if I am running the
> Registrants DNS (Zone file), DNSSEC is simply an option the Registrant
> can switch on. I could change that and simply enable it for everyone.
> However, if the Domain is then moved to a Registrar that does not
> support DNSSEC - there would be issues for the new Registrar.
>
> On 2020/01/10 14:20, Gabdibé GAB-HINGONNE wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> I support Barrack's proposal.
>> Building the capacity of African end users on the general question
>> related to the DNS is very important.
>> Kind regards
>> Gabdibé
>>
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