[AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 159, Issue 18

Olivier Kouami olivierkouami at gmail.com
Tue Jan 14 15:14:45 UTC 2020


Thank you Tijani.
Your position is understandable.
I concurr
Olevie

Le mar. 14 janv. 2020 à 16:03, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
a écrit :

> Thank you Barrack for your proposal.
> DNS Abuse is indeed one of the hottest topics at ICANN today.
> As you know, the spirit of the AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting is to build
> an African community opinion about a hot topic at ICANN and formulate it in
> a statement that we send to the ICANN Board and the concerned parties to
> make our voice heard and to give us more credibility and more visibility.
>
> "Building the Capacity of end users to curb DNS Abuse is Africa" isn't a
> hot topic for ICANN that will permit us build a position on it and send it
> to the ICANN Board. I propose to address the main topic of DNS Abuse.
>
> I hope this can help.
>
> Tijani
>
>
> Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Greetings from Cotonou Bénin
>
> +1 @Barrack proposal.
> . please could I add another topic ?
> If yes, please do note this
>
> "How the ICANN multi-stakeholder model works: end-user view.''
>
> Thank you
> Olévié KOUAMI
>
>
> Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 19:13, Punana Lebo via AFRI-Discuss <
> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> a écrit :
>
>> I concur with Barrack's suggestion on capacity building on 'DNS abuse' to
>> the end users
>>
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>>   1. Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Call for topics: Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN
>>       meeting for ICANN67 (Wisdom Donkor)
>>   2. Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Call for topics: Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN
>>       meeting for ICANN67 (Barrack Otieno)
>> +1 to Barrack's proposal.
>>
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>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 5:42 AM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sarah and colleagues,
>>
>>
>> I would like to propose the following topic;
>>
>> Building the Capacity of end users to curb DNS Abuse is Africa.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:57 pm Robert Nkambwe via AFRI-Discuss, <
>> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
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>> Thanks for sharing Sarah.
>>
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 10:41:47 PM GMT+3, Sarah Kiden <
>> skiden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> I hope this email finds you well. The ICANN67 Meeting is scheduled for
>> March 7 - 12, 2020 in Cancún, Mexico. As with previous ICANN meetings, we
>> plan to hold the Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN meeting. We would like to invite you
>> to submit topics for this session. Our previous statements have focused on
>> issues like: evolving the ICANN Multistakeholder model, New gTLD Subsequent
>> Procedures, enhancing ICANN accountability, etc. Please see our previous
>> statements here
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Joint+AFRALO-AfrICANN+Statements+Workspace>
>> .
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>> Please see our proposed timeline:
>> Call for topics: 9 - 16 January 2020
>> Topic announcement and call for drafting team: 17 - 22 January 2020
>> Drafting of Statement: 23 January - 13 February 2020
>> Send Statement to Staff for translation: 14 February 2020
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>> Please send your suggested topics by *Thursday, 16 January 2020*, after
>> which the drafting team will prepare a draft statement that will be shared
>> with the rest of the members.
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>> Looking forward to your contributions.
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>> Good points Mark and El,
>>
>> I think the end user has been missing in the DNS Security conversation
>> yet they are actually the ones who speak with their pockets, if i may use a
>> Kenyan Proverb. An enlightened end user is an empowered end user. As we
>> bring the next billion users online cases of DNS abuse will definately
>> increase. If governments feel that industry players have not control they
>> will definately step in and thats what we are avoiding.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, 4:55 pm Dr Eberhard W Lisse, <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>
>> Gabdibé,
>>
>> drafting a resolution (beforehand), or even debating a resolution, is
>> going to achieve absolutely nothing.
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> 50% lookups is actually almost worth than zero :-)-).
>>
>>         And how many of those hit infrastructure actually in South Africa?
>>         Does the figure include the public ones from Google and
>> Cloudflare?
>>
>>         My view is that this only works All-or-Nothing, because
>> noncompliant
>>         commercial resolver operators have a commercial advantage over
>>         complaint ones.
>>
>> Financial incentives may work as may financial or other sanctions.
>>
>>         One could even make it part of the Accreditation that DNSSEC must
>> be
>>         offered by the Registrars.
>>
>>         But while the Registrars are usually the entities operating the
>> DNS
>>         and as such have control over the end-user's DNS anyway, the chain
>>         of trust should go up to the end user and not just the Registrar.
>>
>>         Talking to the banks has so far not been very effective, they are
>>         happy with HTTPS even though they forget to renew their
>> certificate
>>         on a regular basis, never mind the expense.
>>
>> I don't have the answer either.
>>
>> If anyone has a technical "solution" or project going on, and is coming
>> to Cancun, please feel free to propose a presentation at TechDay on the
>> Monday.
>>
>> greetings, el
>>
>> On 10/01/2020 15:26, Mark Elkins wrote:
>> > I also like the sound of Barrack's proposal.  What exactly does "DNS
>> > Abuse" mean though?
>> >
>> > If it is to try and get all important Domains DNSSEC Signed and for
>> > all DNS Resolvers to become DNSSEC aware - that would be a winner in
>> > my book!
>> >
>> > Incidentally - about 50% of all DNS lookups in South Africa are DNSSEC
>> > aware.  That's actually the easy bit.  Just have the Internet
>> > Connection suppliers enable DNSSEC on their resolvers.
>> >
>> > Getting the bulk or at least the important Domains DNSSEC Signed will
>> > be a bit more challenging but is quite possible; e.g. any domain for a
>> > website which may involve a financial transaction or deal with
>> > personal information.
>> >
>> > On my Domain Registration and Hosting Platform, if I am running the
>> > Registrants DNS (Zone file), DNSSEC is simply an option the Registrant
>> > can switch on.  I could change that and simply enable it for everyone.
>> > However, if the Domain is then moved to a Registrar that does not
>> > support DNSSEC - there would be issues for the new Registrar.
>> >
>> > On 2020/01/10 14:20, Gabdibé GAB-HINGONNE wrote:
>> >> Dear All,
>> >> I support Barrack's proposal.
>> >> Building the capacity of African end users on the general question
>> >> related to the DNS is very important.
>> >> Kind regards
>> >> Gabdibé
>> >>
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