[AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28

Fri Sep 27 20:41:04 UTC 2019

Dear Maureen,

Let me put it this way.  The summary of the rejection is all contained in
the  earlier email you shared for almost everyone i know who put in their
application and  has shared their rejection story.

It was just all about the two paragraphs including mine.

*I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a
temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on
your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.*
*• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as
a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, **based
on the purpose of your visit.  *

While the compilation is on,  it is my belief that if ICANN cannot get
assurances from the highest level of government for such important meetings
next time, they should not grant the hosting rights to such countries.

The anxiety, mental trauma coming with rejection is not a good feeling for
increased participation and volunteerism in the community.

Obviously, ICANN is also not going to refund the cost of applying for the
same visa twice.

Caleb Ogundele.
An affected Canadian visa rejectee

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> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:21:59 +0100
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A
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> Thanks Maureen for all the interventions and please do not relent as this
> is becoming more like a scam on global south especially after collecting
> their fees without opportunity to an appeal option, rather what we have is
> direct re-application option.
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> We shall revert shortly with the list of those already rejected.
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> @Alan
> As matter of fact the copy of the letter of rejection/refusal has been
> forwarded to ICANN travels but left one with no hope hence Peter's letter
> hinted on the issue, part of which was what Maureen listed which are
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> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:22 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
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>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but
>> I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they
>> are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
>>
>> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of
>> anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that
>> they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
>>
>> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay
>> as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based
>> on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.*
>> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay
>> as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based
>> on the purpose of your visit.  *
>>
>> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to
>> me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <
>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way
>>> to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants
>>> who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous
>>> travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being
>>> rejected.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing  policy
>>>> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the
>>>> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the
>>>> invite letters?
>>>>
>>>> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <
>>>> petersomoragbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Colleagues and friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of
>>>>> road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to
>>>>> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all.
>>>>> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas
>>>>> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such
>>>>> wanton refusalS.
>>>>> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips
>>>>> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not
>>>>> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!!
>>>>> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not
>>>>> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada
>>>>> to keep me away from returning?
>>>>>
>>>>> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to
>>>>> be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they
>>>>> will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its
>>>>> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half
>>>>> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and
>>>>> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the
>>>>> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact
>>>>> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should
>>>>> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.
>>>>> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Yours truly
>>>>> Thank you all.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
>>>>>
>>>>> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United
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