[AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A SUCC

Maureen Hilyard maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
Fri Oct 25 08:20:42 UTC 2019


Sound advice, Yazid. Thank you.

Maureen

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:16 PM Yazid AKANHO <yakanho2 at yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Dear all,
> I faced the same frustration few weeks back when my application has been
> rejected. I felt like abused, looking at the time and physical efforts I
> deployed moving from Cotonou in Benin to reach Accra in Ghana, crossing
> twice two boarders with all processes over there,  plus the money I spent
> for application fees.
>
> But the fact is that we do not have more power than a government. I
> properly read the three reasons they gave in the email where they also
> clearly mention that it's up to me to reapply with the evidences if I think
> I can prove the contrary. I took my time to collect all the documents, then
> I replied and got the visa.
> I am not saying that it will work for all but we just need to follow the
> rules when it comes to something we cannot control.
>
>
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> Le mar., oct. 22, 2019 à 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
> <agalila at mcit.gov.eg> a écrit :
> I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave at igf-mu.org> wrote:
>
>  Dear All,
> I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the
> checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius.
> I followed all the steps following email which I received from them
> including submission of biometric data as well.
> They sent me the following:
> Information on the application process is available in French (
> https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html)
> or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html)
> on the IRCC website.
> Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your
> application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/
> Tous les renseignements au sujet du  processus de demande sont
> disponibles, en français (
> https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en
> anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html),
> sur le site Web d’IRCC.
>
> Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment
> soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html
> <http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html>
>
> Best regards
>
> Dave Kissoondoyal
>
>
> On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
>
> Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us
> Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations
> even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto
> Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about
> visas for African participants.
>
> I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and
> Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told
> me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN
> invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from
> reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide
> proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he
> said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
>
> They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and
> one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a
> student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason
> why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our
> passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
>
> I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest
> time possible.
>
> Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks to you Maureen,
>
>
>
> Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
> Hi Etienne
>
> More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member,
> has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious
> issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What
> you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for
> themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did.
> And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if
> you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the
> original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time
> consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for
> different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the
> day.
>
> Thank you for that clarification about your application.
>
> Maureen
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you had
> time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN
> must do a lobbying work in the background.
>
> Thank you
>
> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
> Thank you for your letter Etienne.
>
> I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations
> based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
>
> ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at
> high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope
> that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and
> respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and
> employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
>
> Maureen
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Bonjour à tous,
> Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos parcours
> de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
>
> Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le temps.
>
> En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les
> raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois
> canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa
> pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de
> l'Occident à cette époque là.
>
> Voici mon petit apport.
>
> Cordialement,
>
> Etienne
>
> Good morning all,
> I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey
> (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
>
> I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
>
> In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the
> reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration
> laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got
> a visa for another country of the West at that time.
>
> Here is my little contribution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Etienne
>
> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
> +1 Hadia
>
> We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very
> grateful.
>
> Maureen
>
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Peters and All,
>
> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN attendees
> need to go through all this to take a role in something they are passionate
> about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and existence of the
> Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can help in this
> regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian officials in
> relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
>
> Best of luck and wishes to all
>
> Hadia Elminiawi
>
> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <
> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals, but
> I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that they
> are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
>
> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the names of
> anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the reasons that
> they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen some stating:
>
> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as
> a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based
> on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.*
> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as
> a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, *based
> on the purpose of your visit.  *
>
> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the information to
> me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
>
> Maureen
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <
> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a way
> to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded applicants
> who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has previous
> travel history and I do not understand why the applications are being
> rejected.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing  policy meetings
> of such global resources to take place where participants from the global
> south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the invite
> letters?
>
> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <
> petersomoragbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues and friends,
>
> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of
> road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to
> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all.
> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas
> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such
> wanton refusalS.
> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips abroad
> with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not leave
> Canada at the end of the conference!!!
> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not remain
> in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada to
> keep me away from returning?
>
> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN to be
> aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that they will
> take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
>
> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its just
> one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half of
> the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and efforts
> put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the
> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact
> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should
> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.
> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.
> Best
> Yours truly
> Thank you all.
>
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