[AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A SUCCESSFUL OUTING

[Peters Omoragbon]

Cngrats

*Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*

*-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United
Kingdom-CANUK*

*-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special
Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United
Nations-ECOSOC*

*-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate
Change-UNFCCC*

*-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable
Association-NNCA-UK*

*-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the
United Nations-CONGO*

*-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*

*-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*

*-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN*
*-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*


On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila at mcit.gov.eg>
wrote:

> I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave at igf-mu.org> wrote:
>
>  Dear All,
> I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the
> checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius.
> I followed all the steps following email which I received from them
> including submission of biometric data as well.
> They sent me the following:
> Information on the application process is available in French (
> https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html)
> or English (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html)
> on the IRCC website.
> Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your
> application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/
> Tous les renseignements au sujet du  processus de demande sont
> disponibles, en français (
> https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en
> anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html),
> sur le site Web d’IRCC.
>
> Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment
> soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html
> <http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html>
>
> Best regards
>
> Dave Kissoondoyal
>
>
> On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
>
> Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us
> Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations
> even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto
> Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about
> visas for African participants.
>
> I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and
> Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told
> me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN
> invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from
> reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide
> proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he
> said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
>
> They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and
> one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a
> student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason
> why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our
> passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
>
> I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest
> time possible.
>
> Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to you Maureen,
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Etienne
>>>
>>> More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member,
>>> has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious
>>> issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What
>>> you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for
>>> themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did.
>>> And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if
>>> you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the
>>> original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time
>>> consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for
>>> different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the
>>> day.
>>>
>>> Thank you for that clarification about your application.
>>>
>>> Maureen
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you
>>>> had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However
>>>> ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your letter Etienne.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their
>>>>> explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just
>>>>> as you did.
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at
>>>>> high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope
>>>>> that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and
>>>>> respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and
>>>>> employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bonjour à tous,
>>>>>> Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos
>>>>>> parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le
>>>>>> temps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les
>>>>>> raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois
>>>>>> canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa
>>>>>> pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de
>>>>>> l'Occident à cette époque là.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voici mon petit apport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cordialement,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>> I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your
>>>>>> journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the
>>>>>> reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration
>>>>>> laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got
>>>>>> a visa for another country of the West at that time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my little contribution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 Hadia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are
>>>>>>> very grateful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <
>>>>>>> hadiaminiawi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Peters and All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN
>>>>>>>> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are
>>>>>>>> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and
>>>>>>>> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can
>>>>>>>> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian
>>>>>>>> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best of luck and wishes to all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hadia Elminiawi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help
>>>>>>>> individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I
>>>>>>>> do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the
>>>>>>>> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the
>>>>>>>> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen
>>>>>>>> some stating:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your
>>>>>>>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the
>>>>>>>> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
>>>>>>>> residence.*
>>>>>>>> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your
>>>>>>>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the
>>>>>>>> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit.  *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the
>>>>>>>> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <
>>>>>>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find
>>>>>>>> a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded
>>>>>>>> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has
>>>>>>>> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are
>>>>>>>> being rejected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing  policy
>>>>>>>> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the
>>>>>>>> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the
>>>>>>>> invite letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <
>>>>>>>> petersomoragbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues and friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad
>>>>>>>> of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to
>>>>>>>> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all.
>>>>>>>> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas
>>>>>>>> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such
>>>>>>>> wanton refusalS.
>>>>>>>> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips
>>>>>>>> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not
>>>>>>>> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!!
>>>>>>>> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not
>>>>>>>> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada
>>>>>>>> to keep me away from returning?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN
>>>>>>>> to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that
>>>>>>>> they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its
>>>>>>>> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half
>>>>>>>> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and
>>>>>>>> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the
>>>>>>>> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact
>>>>>>>> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should
>>>>>>>> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.
>>>>>>>> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Yours truly
>>>>>>>> Thank you all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the
>>>>>>>> United Kingdom-CANUK *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in
>>>>>>>> Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the
>>>>>>>> United Nations-ECOSOC *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on
>>>>>>>> Climate Change-UNFCCC *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable
>>>>>>>> Association-NNCA-UK *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status
>>>>>>>> with the United Nations-CONGO *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate
>>>>>>>> Change *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN *
>>>>>>>> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
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