[AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A SUCCESSFUL OUTING

Dave Kissoondoyal dave at igf-mu.org
Wed Oct 2 16:27:37 UTC 2019


Dear All,
I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the 
checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius.
I followed all the steps following email which I received from them 
including submission of biometric data as well.
They sent me the following:

Information on the application process is available in French 
(https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) 
or English 
(https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on 
the IRCC website.

Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your 
application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/
Tous les renseignements au sujet du  processus de demande sont 
disponibles, en français 
(https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en 
anglais 
(https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html), sur le 
site Web d’IRCC.

Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment 
soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web 
http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html



Best regards


Dave Kissoondoyal

On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
> Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us 
> Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many 
> locations even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN 
> meeting in Puerto Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, 
> I was worried about visas for African participants.
>
> I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and 
> Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they 
> told me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that 
> the ICANN invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs 
> though from reading the visa requirements he noted that he was 
> required to provide proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements 
> as well. As feedback, he said he would mention this to the Travel team 
> for future reference.
>
> They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers 
> and one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she 
> was a student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be 
> the reason why they were granted their visas but I know that with some 
> of our passports, we have to provide more documentation than other 
> applicants.
>
> I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the 
> shortest time possible.
>
> Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com 
> <mailto:news.tkeb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks to you Maureen,
>
>
>
>     Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard
>     <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> a
>     écrit :
>
>         Hi Etienne
>
>         More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our
>         Board member, has been doing. We have all highlighted the
>         situation more as a serious issue - not only for At-Large, and
>         ICANN, but for specific countries. What you did 7 years ago is
>         still relevant. If people want things to happen for
>         themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort,
>         as you did. And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging
>         people to reapply and if you have to pay additional fees, you
>         can be reimbursed these as well as the original fees. But I
>         realise that it is all so frustrating and time consuming. But
>         we live in a world where people are treated differently for
>         different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the
>         issues of the day.
>
>         Thank you for that clarification about your application.
>
>         Maureen
>
>         On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi
>         <news.tkeb at gmail.com <mailto:news.tkeb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I
>             remind you if you had time to read the Canadian
>             immigration law and redo your file. However ICANN must do
>             a lobbying work in the background.
>
>             Thank you
>
>             Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard
>             <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>             <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>                 Thank you for your letter Etienne.
>
>                 I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give
>                 their explanations based on the reasons given by the
>                 Canadian government - just as you did.
>
>                 ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to
>                 facilitate support at high levels to make their own
>                 applications of support. They and we hope that it will
>                 help more people to get through. But they must reapply
>                 and respond to their reasons for the original
>                 rejection with family and employer details that will
>                 ensure their return to their home countries.
>
>                 Maureen
>
>                 On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi
>                 <news.tkeb at gmail.com <mailto:news.tkeb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     Bonjour à tous,
>                     Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au
>                     regard de vos parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters
>                     Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
>                     Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure
>                     si vous aviez le temps.
>
>                     En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai
>                     fait bien relu les raisons qu'il m'avait donné
>                     pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois
>                     canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon
>                     dossier et j'ai eu le visa pour le CANADA. Et je
>                     n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays
>                     de l'Occident à cette époque là.
>
>                     Voici mon petit apport.
>
>                     Cordialement,
>
>                     Etienne
>
>                     Good morning all,
>                     I am confused with you for the visa refusal with
>                     regard to your journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru
>                     OMORAGBON and the others).
>                     I would like to encourage you to redo the
>                     procedure if you have time.
>
>                     In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a
>                     good rereading of the reasons he gave me for the
>                     refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration laws
>                     and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA.
>                     And I had not yet got a visa for another country
>                     of the West at that time.
>
>                     Here is my little contribution.
>
>                     Regards,
>
>                     Etienne
>
>                     Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard
>                     <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>                         +1 Hadia
>
>                         We have a lot of people working on this for
>                         us, for which we are very grateful.
>
>                         Maureen
>
>                         On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El
>                         Miniawi, <hadiaminiawi at yahoo.com
>                         <mailto:hadiaminiawi at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>                             Dear Peters and All,
>
>                             It is a shame that volunteers,
>                             participants, fellows and ICANN attendees
>                             need to go through all this to take a role
>                             in something they are passionate about and
>                             that is a true contribution to the
>                             thriving and existence of the Internet
>                             through the MSM. I don't know how any of
>                             us can help in this regard, but I think
>                             ICANN needs to address the Canadian
>                             officials in relation to what is happening
>                             with ICANN participants' visas.
>
>                             Best of luck and wishes to all
>
>                             Hadia Elminiawi
>
>                             On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM
>                             PDT, Maureen Hilyard
>                             <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>                             Hi everyone
>
>                             Gisella, Heidi and I have made
>                             frequent attempts to help individuals, but
>                             I did not realise the extent of these visa
>                             rejections. I do know that they are not
>                             only rejecting applicants from Africa.
>
>                             Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could
>                             you please send me the names of anyone you
>                             know who has received a rejection letter
>                             and the reasons that they have been given
>                             for the rejection. I have already seen
>                             some stating:
>
>                             * I am not satisfied that you will leave
>                             Canada at the end of your stay as a
>                             temporary resident, as stipulated in
>                             paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, _based on
>                             your family ties in Canada and in your
>                             country of residence._
>                             • I am not satisfied that you will leave
>                             Canada at the end of your stay as a
>                             temporary resident, as stipulated in
>                             paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, _based on
>                             the purpose of your visit. _
>
>                             It would be helpful to know these reasons.
>                             Please send the information to me so that
>                             we can check what more ICANN could do.
>
>                             Maureen
>
>                             On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM
>                             AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
>                             <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:
>
>                                 Dear all,
>                                 It is a shame that this is happening
>                                 and I think ICANN should find a way to
>                                 solve this problem. From Nigeria
>                                 alone, I know of 7 funded applicants
>                                 who have applied and 6 of the 7 were
>                                 rejected. All of these has previous
>                                 travel history and I do not understand
>                                 why the applications are being rejected.
>
>
>                                 On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz
>                                 Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com
>                                 <mailto:lizorembo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                                     This is the height of exclusion.
>                                     Why are we even allowing policy
>                                     meetings of such global resources
>                                     to take place where participants
>                                     from the global south cant attend?
>                                     What is the purpose of the event
>                                     code in the invite letters?
>
>                                     I hope ICANN takes this up with
>                                     the Canadian government.
>
>                                     On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM
>                                     Peters Omoragbon
>                                     <petersomoragbon at gmail.com
>                                     <mailto:petersomoragbon at gmail.com>>
>                                     wrote:
>
>                                         Dear Colleagues and friends,
>
>                                         I am constrained to bring the
>                                         attention of everyone to the
>                                         myriad of road-blocks and
>                                         frustrations currently
>                                         confronting African delegates
>                                         to ATLAS 3, and I am afraid,
>                                         about 80% may not make it to
>                                         Montreal after all. No thanks
>                                         to the Canadian Embassy that,
>                                         has not only refused their
>                                         visas applications but also
>                                         giving very spurious and
>                                         insulting excuses for such
>                                         wanton refusalS.
>                                         For example, delegates that
>                                         have a track history of
>                                         previous trips abroad with
>                                         valid USA, UK and even Japan
>                                         visas are being told, they may
>                                         not leave Canada at the end of
>                                         the conference!!!
>                                         That is the worst excuse I
>                                         have heard all my life. If I
>                                         could not remain in the USA,
>                                         or Japan, UK and Europe, what
>                                         is so special about Canada to
>                                         keep me away from returning?
>
>                                         It must be recalled that we
>                                         collectively put up and appeal
>                                         to ICANN to be aware of the
>                                         notoriety of the Canadian
>                                         Embassies in African, that
>                                         they will take our monies and
>                                         refused to grant a genuine
>                                         visa application.
>
>                                         It is my view that ICANN
>                                         Secretariat please intervenes
>                                         because its just one month
>                                         away to Montreal. It will be
>                                         such a shame if more than half
>                                         of the accredited delegates
>                                         are absent after all the
>                                         preparations and efforts put
>                                         into the planning and
>                                         selections. And it should also
>                                         be the responsibility of the
>                                         AFRALO leadership to lead on
>                                         this struggle. The fact that,
>                                         they all have free rides to
>                                         travel anywhere for ICANN
>                                         events should not becloud
>                                         their responsibilities to
>                                         us-members from AFRALO.
>                                         I hope ALAC leadership should
>                                         provide the oversight function
>                                         here.
>                                         Best
>                                         Yours truly
>                                         Thank you all.
>                                         *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON
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