[AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A SUCCESSFUL OUTING

Tue Oct 1 17:28:09 UTC 2019

 Thanks to you Maureen,

Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Hi Etienne
>
> More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member,
> has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious
> issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What
> you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for
> themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did.
> And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if
> you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the
> original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time
> consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for
> different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the
> day.
>
> Thank you for that clarification about your application.
>
> Maureen
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you
>> had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However
>> ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Thank you for your letter Etienne.
>>>
>>> I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their explanations
>>> based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just as you did.
>>>
>>> ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support at
>>> high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope
>>> that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and
>>> respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and
>>> employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
>>>
>>> Maureen
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bonjour à tous,
>>>> Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos
>>>> parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
>>>>
>>>> Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le
>>>> temps.
>>>>
>>>> En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les
>>>> raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois
>>>> canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa
>>>> pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de
>>>> l'Occident à cette époque là.
>>>>
>>>> Voici mon petit apport.
>>>>
>>>> Cordialement,
>>>>
>>>> Etienne
>>>>
>>>> Good morning all,
>>>> I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your journey
>>>> (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
>>>>
>>>> I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
>>>>
>>>> In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of the
>>>> reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration
>>>> laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got
>>>> a visa for another country of the West at that time.
>>>>
>>>> Here is my little contribution.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Etienne
>>>>
>>>> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> +1 Hadia
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are very
>>>>> grateful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <
>>>>> hadiaminiawi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Peters and All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN
>>>>>> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are
>>>>>> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and
>>>>>> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can
>>>>>> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian
>>>>>> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best of luck and wishes to all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hadia Elminiawi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help individuals,
>>>>>> but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I do know that
>>>>>> they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the
>>>>>> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the
>>>>>> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen
>>>>>> some stating:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your
>>>>>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the
>>>>>> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
>>>>>> residence.*
>>>>>> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your
>>>>>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the
>>>>>> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit.  *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the
>>>>>> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <
>>>>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find a
>>>>>> way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded
>>>>>> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has
>>>>>> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are
>>>>>> being rejected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing  policy
>>>>>> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the
>>>>>> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the
>>>>>> invite letters?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <
>>>>>> petersomoragbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Colleagues and friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad of
>>>>>> road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to
>>>>>> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all.
>>>>>> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas
>>>>>> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such
>>>>>> wanton refusalS.
>>>>>> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips
>>>>>> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not
>>>>>> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!!
>>>>>> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not
>>>>>> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada
>>>>>> to keep me away from returning?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to ICANN
>>>>>> to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African, that
>>>>>> they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its
>>>>>> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half
>>>>>> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and
>>>>>> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the
>>>>>> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact
>>>>>> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should
>>>>>> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.
>>>>>> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Yours truly
>>>>>> Thank you all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United
>>>>>> Kingdom-CANUK*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special
>>>>>> Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United
>>>>>> Nations-ECOSOC*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on
>>>>>> Climate Change-UNFCCC*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable
>>>>>> Association-NNCA-UK*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with
>>>>>> the United Nations-CONGO*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN*
>>>>>> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
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>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>> Liz.
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>>>>>> *Dr. Abdulkarim A.Oloyede*. *B. Eng (BUK), M.Sc (York), PhD (York),
>>>>>> R.Eng, A+*
>>>>>> *Senior Lecturer, **Department of Telecommunications Science,
>>>>>> University of Ilorin, Nigeria*
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