[AFRI-Discuss] Fwd: AFRALO NomCom candidate

Thu Jul 4 03:23:43 UTC 2019

Hi all !
Good point John !
I agree with you too.
So, it'll be conform with the MS bottom-up process.
Wam regards
Olevie

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Le jeu. 4 juil. 2019 à 03:00, John Laprise <jlaprise at gmail.com> a écrit :

> If I can suggest, this has happened twice during my term on ALAC. RALOS
> should submit a list of three ranked candidates to avoid this problem in
> the future. On the other hand, I'm not in favor of RALOs directly appointed
> NomCom representatives. NomCom rep selection is one of our most important
> tasks and the broad consensus represented by ALAC appointment confers our
> community's strongest support for NomCom reps.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3XL
>
> John Laprise, Ph.D.
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 8:22 PM Abd-El-Raouf Olévié Kouami <
> olivierkouami at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 @Remmy.
>> "...AFRALO needs to do some internal mechanism inline with ALAC rules of
>> procedure by introducing internal 'NomCom' instead of waiting for candidate
>> to be nominated, and go through the electioneering only to be turned down
>> or even go through another selection or voting process."
>> Agree !
>> Warm regards
>> Olevie
>>
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>> Le jeu. 4 juil. 2019 à 00:43, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks Bashir
>>> I commend your leadership by getting back to the community on this
>>> subject matter.
>>>
>>> Yes I agree with you ALAC appointment should have come as a
>>> recommendation even if we do not have alternative.
>>>
>>> I will like AfRALO leadership to take a stand on this because I just got
>>> announcement for voting cadre to cast their votes without AfRALO candidate
>>> either appointed or otherwise allow this to pass but begin now to scout for
>>> next year.
>>>
>>> Or are we  opening up fresh procedure on this?
>>>
>>> And if fresh procedure what are the timelines?
>>>
>>> Further, like you noted AFRALO needs to do some internal mechanism
>>> inline with ALAC rules of procedure by introducing internal 'NomCom'
>>> instead of waiting for candidate to be nominated, and go through the
>>> electioneering only to be turned down or even go through another selection
>>> or voting process.
>>>
>>> While we wait for ALAC to review it's charter among other procedural
>>> guidelines, AfRALO can start its own in-house mechanism to avert the same
>>> episode next year.
>>>
>>> I rest my case for now.
>>> Remmy Nweke
>>> DigitalSENSE Africa
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 23:57 Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear AFRALO Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Reference to AfRALO’s elections and selection of its Nomcom candidate
>>>> which was sent to ALAC for voting/endorsement sometime ago and for the sake
>>>> of transparency I am sharing with you the communication I received from
>>>> Maureen Hilyard, ALAC chair ( below email ) which indicates that ALAC is
>>>> rejecting AFRALO Nomcom Candidate and has proposed appointing an
>>>> alternative candidate.
>>>>
>>>> Before ALAC has raised this issue, Abdulkarim has indicated to me his
>>>> willingness to withdraw.
>>>>
>>>> The bylaws indicate that ALAC select the candidate with consultation
>>>> with the RALO, I requested that AfRALO to be given more time to consult and
>>>> provide a response, but my request was declined due time constraint reason.
>>>>
>>>> The issue is not the proposed new candidate but the process itsef,
>>>> AfRALO could have proposed alternate name(s) or provided feedback which is
>>>> a consultation instead of ALAC deciding on behalf of the RALO.
>>>>
>>>> This is not the first time that ALAC rejects a regional elected
>>>> candidate, it happend before,  though the bylaws gives ALAC this right this
>>>> process needs to be fixed and clearly defined to avoid any disputes or
>>>> negative outcomes due to the different expectations specially when the RALO
>>>> members vote.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this process to be reviewed to avoid any unnecessary negative
>>>> outcomes, maybe the next AfRALO Leadership/ALAC officers can work on this
>>>> internal process.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> *Best Regards,*
>>>> *Mohamed*
>>>>
>>>> *Please excuse the brevity and/or typos, as this message was sent from
>>>> my cellphone. *
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>> *Date:* July 2, 2019 at 2:44:10 AM PDT
>>>> *To:* Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net>
>>>> *Cc:* Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>, ALT-Plus <
>>>> alt-plus at icann.org>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>>> *Subject:* *Re: AFRALO NomCom candidate*
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mohamed
>>>>
>>>> I wish we had the luxury of more time. Since the election, the AFRALO
>>>> nomination has been the focus of many discussions among the ALAC and ALT+.
>>>> This has resulted in the second nomination being forthcoming.
>>>>
>>>> The main concerns were:
>>>> a) Lack of experience and knowledge of the requirements and
>>>> expectations of Leadership of At-Large and the wider ICANN community;
>>>> b) Lack of adherence to ICANN's Code of conduct and of some core values
>>>> of At-Large;
>>>> c) Lack of identification as a member of At-Large as noted in a public
>>>> comment he made during the DoH/DoT session in Marrakech where he introduced
>>>> himself as "representing NCUC" with no mention of At-Large
>>>>
>>>> The ALAC Rules of Procedure state:
>>>> 18.5 ALAC Representatives to the ICANN Nominating Committee, one from
>>>> each ICANN region, *will be selected by the ALAC* in consultation with
>>>> the RALOs.
>>>>
>>>> This will not be the first time that the ALAC has rejected a
>>>> recommendation by a RALO and made their own selection.
>>>>
>>>> The announcement notifying the ALAC about the vote will go out tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Maureen
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 6:32 PM Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maureen,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am aware that you have talked with Tijani about AfRALO Nomcom
>>>>> selection with Tijani in Marrakech and I was waiting for your email.
>>>>>
>>>>> AfRALO Nomcom election result was announced since some time I would
>>>>> expect ALAC to raise any issues earlier when the election results were
>>>>> announced, not very late in the process beside also not indicating the
>>>>> reasons of such position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although Hadia is a good candidate, we can’t accept an appointment by
>>>>> ALAC without giving the RALO a chance to propose another candidate, we need
>>>>> to follow AfRALO process in our selection, 80% of AfRALO members have
>>>>> participated the recent elections and selected their appointees.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will update and consult with the RALO leadership team about your
>>>>> request and update you with our position, expect to get another name in the
>>>>> coming 2 weeks as maximum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Mohamed
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 2:18 AM, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mohamed
>>>>>
>>>>> After discussing the NomCom candidate proposed by AFRALO with several
>>>>> of my ALAC members, I regret to inform you that although there will be a
>>>>> formal ALAC vote during the next couple of days on his nomination,
>>>>> informally there was little support for the nomination of Abdulkarim for
>>>>> this position.
>>>>>
>>>>> I raised this with Tijani when we were in Marrakesh, and asked that
>>>>> the AFRALO leadership team look into another candidate who might be more
>>>>> acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the ALAC is also entitled to propose someone if no other
>>>>> contender is brought to our attention, another recommendation has been made
>>>>> whom I know would get absolute support from the ALAC.  *Hadia
>>>>> Elminiawi *has accepted to take on this role. At the same time she
>>>>> will continue with her EPDP activities, as well as support other CPWG and
>>>>> outreach and engagement activities.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that this recommendation meets with your approval. I know that
>>>>> Hadia would be a great representative from AFRALO as she has been during
>>>>> her term on the ALAC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>
>>>>>
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