[AFRI-Discuss] Finalizing Individual Membership Recommendation

[Mwendwa Kivuva]

KICTANET supports all efforts towards enriching participation, and growth
of individual Internet users in Africa. Indeed this is a noble idea to
ensure new voices are brought onboard at ICANN and the Internet Governance
ecosystem. As a continent, we cannot be left behind while the train has
already left the station.

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Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
twitter.com/lordmwesh



On 18 July 2017 at 18:00, Aziz Hilali via AFRI-Discuss <
afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:

> <<English>>
>
> Thank you very much Alan for these clarifications.
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> After seeing all the comments of our colleagues, I would like to add that
> 35 ALS participated in the call on Wednesday 13 July. They were all
> unanimous on the proposal of individual membership. Only one asked the
> chair to make a consensus call on the list for the ALS reps who were
> absent. That's why I wrote my mail calling you for consensus.
>
> During my term of President, I always sought consensus in our decisions. I
> also recalled it during our discussions in Johannesburg. If there is no
> consensus as I had hoped, I would be obliged to apply the democratic rule
> of the majority. The final decision will be taken by a formal vote of all
> the AFRALO members.
>
> I would like to reassure our colleagues (who see what we are doing with
> great suspicion) that individual members will not have the right to vote or
> be eligible for leadership positions.
>
> Thank you all for your comments and support.
> Best Regards
> Aziz Hilali
> AFRALO Chair
>
>
> <<Français>>
>
> Merci beaucoup Alan pour ces précisions.
>
> Chers collègues,
>
> Après avoir lu tous les commentaires de nos collègues, je souhaite ajouter
> que pas moins de 35 ALS ont participé à l'appel du mercredi 13 juillet.
> Elles étaient toutes unanimes sur la question de l’adhésion individuelle.
> Un seul a demandé à la présidence d'écrire aux ALS qui étaient absentes
> pour un large consensus. C'est pourquoi j'ai écrit mon courrier pour vous
> demander un consensus.
>
> Durant tout mon mandat de Président, j'ai toujours cherché le consensus
> dans nos décisions. Je l'ai également rappelé lors de nos discussions à
> Johannesburg. S'il n'y a pas de consensus comme je l’avais espéré, je
> serais obligé d'appliquer la règle démocratique de la majorité. La décision
> finale sera prise par un vote formel de tous les membres d'AFRALO.
>
> Je voudrais rassurer les collègues (qui voient ce que nous faisons avec
> beaucoup de suspicion), que les membres individuels n'auront pas le droit
> ni de voter ni d'être éligibles à des postes de direction.
>
> Merci à vous tous pour vos commentaires et votre soutien.
> Cordialement
> Aziz Hilali
> Président d’AFRALO
>
>
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>
> Le Lundi 17 juillet 2017 17h18, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> a écrit :
>
>
>
> Dear Pastor Peters,
>
> You addressed your questions to Aziz, but a few of them really are in my
> domain and I will attempt to reply.
>
> The message I sent Aziz was a reminder and not the result of a recent
> ALAC action. In 2008/9, we had the first Independent Review of At-Large.
> This process was a long and complicated one that involved extensive
> consultation all all levels of the community. One of the recommendations
> was that all RALOs investigate how (note "how", not
> "if") to incorporate individual unaffiliated members into their
> organization. That set of recommendations was approved by the ICANN Board
> on 26 June 2009 (Resolution 2009-06-26-30).
>
> At that time, NARALO already had individual members, but it was the only
> RALO that did. The "Recommendation", once approved by the
> Board, was no longer an option (and notably, no RALO objected to it!)
> EURALO and eventually APRALO developed procedures, each in their own way,
> to accommodate users unaffiliated with ALSes. AFRALO and LACRALO have not
> done so to date.
>
> The ongoing review of At-Large has come out with an even stronger
> recommendation that individual users are essential, and that it MUST not
> be required that a person interested in joining At-Large either form or
> find an ALS. Although At-Large is generally not agreeing with the details
> of this recommendation and particularly the implication that ALSes be
> effectively abolished, all of our responses, including those of the RALOs
> which all RALO members had a opportunity to contribute to, agreed that we
> would have individual unaffiliated members in all regions. This
> "compromise" has the advantage of allowing RALOs to set the
> specific rules (within a reasonable envelope) of such individual
> membership.
>
> To address your number 2, the ALAC does not have direct jurisdiction over
> RALOs, but RALOS are subject to certain rules made by the ALAC (and
> developed with regional input) where the ICANN Bylaws and ALAC Rules of
> Procedure give the ALAC such rights. Each RALO selects ALAC Members and
> by doing so, the region gives those representatives the right to act on
> their behalf.
>
> Regarding your question 5 on the benefits of individual members, the
> ICANN Bylaws identifies At-Large as the home of all individual Internet
> users. As originally envisioned, there would be ALSes which would allow
> (and I quote the Bylaws) "every individual Internet user who is a
> citizen of a country within the RALO's Geographic Region to participate
> in at least one of the RALO's At-Large Structures". Clearly this is
> not the case now, and it is unrealistic to believe that this is possible.
> Many ALSes have particular orientations or interests (such as yours) and
> cannot be expected to accommodate everyone. And two sets of external
> reviewers have recognized that requiring someone to set up a new ALS just
> to be able to participate in a RALO is not reasonable.
>
> At-Large had FAR TOO FEW PEOPLE who are really active in the policy work
> for which ICANN exists. At-Large is not here to do outreach or organize
> and participate in RALOs. These are necessary activities to allow us to
> thrive, but the REAL reason we are here is to work with other parts of
> ICANN representing user interests. Anything we can do to remove barriers
> to allowing more participation is crucial to our existence.
>
> Alan
>
> At 16/07/2017 04:37 PM, Peters Omoragbon wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mr. Aziz
> >
> >Thank you for your information and once again I apologise for my
> unavoidable absence during the last call.
> >
> >On the issue in reference I oppose to any vote to be taken via electronic
> means save for at a General Assembly  on the following grounds
> >1. Please provide the transcript or link to the transcript of the ALAC
> Meeting where the decision passed to you by the ALAC Chair was
> tsken.
> >2. Ralos from icann set rules are to set their own guidelines which does
> not conflict with icann rules of procedure for effective coordination of
> their (RALOS) activities. If one is to decipher your information it
> presupposes that ALAC is giving Ralos an ultimatum to take a decision on
> issue(s) that is yet to receive consensus of the GA
> >3. No decision was taken on any item at the GA once the GA resolved that
> ALL items be referred back to the ROP WORKGROUP and represented to the
> GA. So even though you are the chair of AFRALO you cannot over rulr the
> highest decision making body of AFRALO -the GA.
> >4. ROP WORKGROUP meeting is yet to be called and that is what should be
> done asap.
> >5. Of what emergent benefit is individual membership that it should
> override other pressing issues confronting AFRALO to warrant this present
> pressure?
> >Your call for a vote is procedurally defective and undemocratic.  It
> is an attempt to rush Afralo to make decision through the back door for
> the benefit of vested interests and individuals.
> >
> >We oppose this motion.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >Pastor Peters Omoragbon
> >
> >
> >
> >On 16 Jul 2017 21:07, "Aziz Hilali via AFRI-Discuss"
> <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
> >
> ><English>
> >
> >
> >Dear Members,
> >
> >
> >As per the information shared during our monthly call, It is been
> brought to our attention by the ALAC Chair that as per the first ALAC
> review requirements and the current At-Large Review (on-going)
> recommendations, the RALOs are tasked with ensuring individual
> membership. Therefore we need to get this particular item completed
> with.
> >
> >
> >As you may recall during the General Assembly in Johannesburg, this
> particular recommendation of the working group gained traction but we
> could not formerly record it due to other recommendations and time
> constraints. In view of this, I suggest we separate this recommendation
> on individual membership which already gained traction and pass that now
> to comply with At-Large reviews requirements.
> >
> >
> >For reference, below is the link to the latest version of the
> "Individual Membership » recommendation distributed in
> Johannesburg:
> >
> >https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Individual+Membe
> rship+-+AFRALO+ROP+Review
> >
> >
> >Item 7 of the recommendation currently reads as follows:
> >
> >The individual membership issue will be
> reviewed in 2019 to reconsider their rights and duties of unaffiliated
> members in light of the 2018 experience.
> >
> >I propose to modify it in this way:
> >
> >"The individual membership issue will be reviewed by or before 2
> years after implementation to reconsider the rights and duties of
> unaffiliated members in light of experience gained during initial
> trial"
> >
> >
> >I hereby, as AFRALO Chair, call for any objection to approving the
> conditions under which individual membership will be implemented as
> presented in the above recommendation.
> >
> >
> >Kindly provide your response within 72hrs
> >
> >
> >Best regards
> >
> >Aziz HILALI
> >
> >AFRALO Chair
> >
> >---------------------------
> >
> >
> ><French>
> >
> >
> >Chers membres,
> >
> >
> >D'après les informations partagées lors de notre téléconférence
> mensuelle, le président de l’ALAC a attiré notre attention sur le
> fait que les RALO sont appelés à accepter les adhésions
> individuelles, et ce suivant les exigences de la première revue de
> l’ALAC et les recommandations de la revue actuelle d’At-Large, Par
> conséquent, nous devons finir ce point particulier sans plus
> tarder.
> >
> >
> >Comme vous le savez, lors de l’assemblée Générale Ã
> Johannesburg, cette recommandation du groupe de travail a été
> approuvée, mais nous n’avions pas pu l’officialiser à cause du
> fait que toutes les recommandations étaient dans un même document et
> que le temps ne nous a pas permis de les finir toutes. Pour cela, je
> suggère que nous séparons cette recommandation sur l’adhésion
> individuelle pour se conformer avec les exigence des revues
> d’At-Large.
> >
> >
> >Pour référence, voici le lien de la toute dernière version
> distribuée à  Johannesburg de la recommandation relative Ã
> l’adhésion individuelle:
> >
> >https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Individual+Membe
> rship+-+AFRALO+ROP+Review
> >
> >
> >Le point 7 de la recommandation dit:
> >
> >La question des droits et devoirs des
> membres individuels sera réexaminée en 2019 au vue de l’expérience
> de 2018.
> >
> >Je propose de le modifier pour devenir:
> >
> >«La question des droits et devoirs des membres individuels sera
> réexaminée 2 ans après la mise en oeuvre (ou avant) au vue de
> l’expérience de la période d’essai».
> >
> >
> >En ma qualité de Président d’AFRALO, je demande s’il y a des
> objections pour l’approbation des conditions sous lesquelles
> l’adhésion individuelle sera appliquée comme présenté dans la
> recommandation mentionnée.
> >
> >
> >Prière répondre dans les 72 heures.
> >
> >
> >Cordialement
> >
> >Aziz Hilali
> >
> >AFRALO Chair
> >
> >
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