[AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in BUENOS AIRES"African views on the Proposal of the Governance of Internet uniqueidentifiers"

Sun Jun 21 02:43:09 UTC 2015

Dear All,

I have edited the version from Dave (which is an update on Beran's
version). I accepted most of Dave's edits but left some within the CCWG
section for Tijani to have further look as i think the membership comments
was actually to indicate how problematic membership model can be and why we
should not go that route.

I have also added a few statement to reflect/cover Muwendwa's
suggestion/comment and i hope that will help

Attached is the redline version

Regards

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave at isoc-mu.org> wrote:

> Dear Tijani,
>
> I have done some changes (changes are tracked in the document) and please
> feel free to amend where necessary.
>
> Also instead of asking a question in the document, it is better to come
> with
> a recommendation.
> I have modified the following to the paragraph below:
>
> •       The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to
> the community . The membership model would enhance the accountability of
> the
> board to the ICANN members, but how do we ensure that the ICANN members
> will
> be accountable to the community???? With the membership model, we do not
> solve it but instead move the accountability issue from the board to the
> members
>
> •       The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to
> the community in a transparent manner. The membership model would enhance
> the accountability of the board to the ICANN members. With the membership
> model, we do not solve the accountability problem but instead shift the
> issue from the board to the members.
> •       Therefore we recommend that checks and balances should be put in
> place at the membership level to ensure that the members are accountable to
> the community.
>
> Thanks and best regards
>
> Dave Kissoondoyal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: afri-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
> Sent: 20 June 2015 14:12
> To: Beran Dondeh; tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
> Cc: Afri-Discuss; Alan Greenberg; AfrICANN List; Afrinic-discuss
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in BUENOS
> AIRES"African views on the Proposal of the Governance of Internet
> uniqueidentifiers"
>
> Thank you very much Beran for your review. It is really helpful.
>
> I accepted almost all your language corrections except one that I found not
> too correct. Perhaps Seun can find with you the best text.
>
> As for your question about the word "un-interested", the meaning we intent
> was that it is done not for particular or private interest, but only for
> the
> public interest.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Tijani
>
>
>
>
> On ven 19/06/15 11:43 , Beran Dondeh <berandondeh at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Aziz, Tijani et al,
> >
> > Please find attached an edited version of the English Document with
> > tracked changes. I would also like to slightly edit Tijani's suggested
> > additions.
> >
> > • The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to
> > the community. The membership model would enhance the accountability
> > of the board to the ICANN members, but how do we ensure that the ICANN
> > members will be accountable to the community???? With the membership
> > model, we do not solve it but instead move the accountability issue
> > from the board to the members Thank you and regards
> >
> > Beran Gillen
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2015, at 9:02 PM, tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Aziz and all,
> > >
> > > May I add a paragraph to the accountability part of our statement
> > before the last bullet point in the following mannar:
> > >
> > > • All the accountability mechanisms should avoid leading to courts
> > > as
> > much as possible. In fact, we do not accept that ICANN affairs be
> > managed by courts in whatever jurisdiction. ICANN is an example of a
> > triving multistakeholder community and we should endeavor to protect
> > that as much as possible.
> > >
> > > Added paragraph:
> > >
> > > • The final aim of the CCWG work is to enhance the Accountability to
> > the community. The membership model would enhance the
> > > accountability of the board to the ICANN members, but how we can
> > > ensure
> > that the ICANN members will be accountable to the
> > > community???? With the membership model, we move the accountability
> > issue from the board to the members, but we do not solve
> > > it.
> > >
> > > • The community group that will act on behalf of the respective
> > community stakeholders to exercise the powers mentioned in the report
> > should be as inclusive as possible. We prefer equal footing for all
> > SOs and ACs, but can live with the composition proposed in the report.
> > >
> > > Finally, we reiterate our support to the CWG-Stewardship and the
> > CCWG-Accountability groups and appreciate the progress made so far.
> > However, we think that their proposals need further work to find the
> > right multi-stakeholder solution for the stewardship transition and
> > the best ways to empower the community using the right means and
> > avoiding ICANN the risk of being weakened or loose its independence,
> > its inclusiveness and its multi-stakeholder nature.
> > >
> > > Tijani
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On mer 17/06/15 8:54 , Aziz Hilali  wrote:
> > >
> > >> [English]
> > >> Dear colleagues,
> > >> AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO/AfrICANN
> > >> during
> > the
> > >> ICANN meeting next week in Buenos Aires. The theme proposed by the
> > members
> > >> of AFRALO will be "African views on the Proposal of the Governance
> > >> of Internet unique identifiers".
> > >>
> > >> You will find attached the draft statement in English (French
> > translation
> > >> is in progress, it will be sent on the list tomorrow) of the joint
> > >> AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 24 June 2015.
> > >> Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end
> > >> of Saturday, June 20,2015, to allow us to include them before
> > >> printing
> > the
> > >> final version and then distribute it to the participants in the
> > meeting for
> > >> discussion, modification if any and adoption.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [French]
> > >>
> > >> Chers collègues,
> > >>
> > >> AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO /
> > AfrICANN
> > >> lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à
> > Buenos
> > >> Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Points de
> > vue
> > >> africains sur la proposition de la gouvernance du système des
> > >> identificateurs uniques de l'Internet".
> > >>
> > >> En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration (la
> > >> traduction française est en cours de préparation et sera transmise
> > sur la
> > >> liste demain) de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura
> > lieu à
> > >> Buenos Aires le Mercredi 24 Juin 2015.
> > >>
> > >> Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le
> > Samedi
> > >> 20 Juin 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la
> > >> version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la
> > réunion
> > >> pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Aziz Hilali
> > >> AFRALO Chair _______________________________________________
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