[AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2
BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE
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Tue Aug 5 09:29:12 EDT 2008
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> 1. AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
> (Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole)
> 2. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Matthias Langenegger)
> 3. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Khaled KOUBAA)
> 4. meeting and raison d'?tre (Alan Levin)
> 5. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Mohamed EL Bashir)
> 6. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Philemon)
> 7. [Reminder] AFRALO Monthly Teleconference @ Wed 6 Aug 13:00 ?
> 14:00 () (Google Calendar)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:06:22 +0100
> From: "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole at gmail.com>
> Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
> To: <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Cc: At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Message-ID: <489809FD.000010.03584 at YOUR-8B0DB5E2CA>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
> Dear AfRALO memebers
>
> Please find next telconference agenda for your comment:
>
> Adoption of the agenda
> Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any)
> Designation of a Chair for the meeting
> Welcom to MACIS
> Staff announcements
> Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa)
> Interactions with Other RALOS
> Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review
>
> I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation,
> number to dial, code etc...
>
> Kind regards
>
> Didier R Kasole
> AfRALO Sec.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:35:31 -0700
> From: Matthias Langenegger <matthias.langenegger at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
> To: Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole <dkasole at gmail.com>,
> "afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org"
> <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Cc: At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Message-ID: <C4BDDD73.5C71%matthias.langenegger at icann.org<C4BDDD73.5C71%25matthias.langenegger at icann.org>
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Thank you for the agenda, Didier.
>
> Dear AFRALO members,
>
> You find below a list with the phone numbers we will call tomorrow a couple
> of minutes before the start of the AFRALO teleconference at 1300 UTC. Please
> get in contact with me if you will not be reachable at one of the provided
> numbers tomorrow.
>
> French Channel:
> Hawa Diakit?, +223 221 20 58, +223 221 08 04, +223 674 35 72
> Fatimata Seye Sylla, +221 33 864 42 84, +221 33 639 31 95
> Didier Kasole, +243 999 912 911, +212 53 35 35 68
> Abdelaziz Hilali. + 212 37 77 83 08 , + 212 37 71 33 63
> Arnold Mulenda Yamukandu, +243 9900 20 922
> Mr. Gabriel Bombambo + 353879184739
>
> English Channel:
> Mohmammed El Bashir, +24 9183766729, +24 9912148139
> Ciza Victor, +25 778 839 000
> Alyoce Menda, +255 755 789 468
>
> Talk to you soon!
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Matthias Langenegger
> At-Large Coordination Officer
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
> Email: matthias.langenegger at icann.org
> Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35
> Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44
> Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger
>
>
>
>
>
> On 05/08/2008 10:06, "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear AfRALO memebers
>
>
>
> Please find next telconference agenda for your comment:
>
>
>
> Adoption of the agenda
>
> Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any)
>
> Designation of a Chair for the meeting
>
> Welcom to MACIS
>
> Staff announcements
>
> Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa)
>
> Interactions with Other RALOS
>
> Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review
>
>
>
> I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation,
> number to dial, code etc...
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Didier R Kasole
>
> AfRALO Sec.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:56:22 +0200
> From: Khaled KOUBAA <khaled.koubaa at topnet.tn>
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
> To: Matthias Langenegger <matthias.langenegger at icann.org>
> Cc: "afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org"
> <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Staff
> <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Message-ID: <489815B6.3040407 at topnet.tn>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Matthias,
> Please add my phone number : +216 98 270 025 / +216 25 166 060
> But unfortunatly I will not be able to reach you tomorrow as I have
> already scheduled a conference call at 12pm UK Time and it will take
> more than one hour.
> Regards,
>
> Khaled KOUBAA
> President ISOC Tunisia
>
> Matthias Langenegger a ?crit :
> > Thank you for the agenda, Didier.
> >
> > Dear AFRALO members,
> >
> > You find below a list with the phone numbers we will call tomorrow a
> couple of minutes before the start of the AFRALO teleconference at 1300 UTC.
> Please get in contact with me if you will not be reachable at one of the
> provided numbers tomorrow.
> >
> > French Channel:
> > Hawa Diakit?, +223 221 20 58, +223 221 08 04, +223 674 35 72
> > Fatimata Seye Sylla, +221 33 864 42 84, +221 33 639 31 95
> > Didier Kasole, +243 999 912 911, +212 53 35 35 68
> > Abdelaziz Hilali. + 212 37 77 83 08 , + 212 37 71 33 63
> > Arnold Mulenda Yamukandu, +243 9900 20 922
> > Mr. Gabriel Bombambo + 353879184739
> >
> > English Channel:
> > Mohmammed El Bashir, +24 9183766729, +24 9912148139
> > Ciza Victor, +25 778 839 000
> > Alyoce Menda, +255 755 789 468
> >
> > Talk to you soon!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > --
> > Matthias Langenegger
> > At-Large Coordination Officer
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >
> > Email: matthias.langenegger at icann.org
> > Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35
> > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44
> > Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/08/2008 10:06, "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear AfRALO memebers
> >
> >
> >
> > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment:
> >
> >
> >
> > Adoption of the agenda
> >
> > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any)
> >
> > Designation of a Chair for the meeting
> >
> > Welcom to MACIS
> >
> > Staff announcements
> >
> > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa)
> >
> > Interactions with Other RALOS
> >
> > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation,
> > number to dial, code etc...
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Didier R Kasole
> >
> > AfRALO Sec.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AFRI-Discuss mailing list
> > AFRI-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >
> > Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org
> >
> > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:47:37 +0200
> From: Alan Levin <alan at futureperfect.co.za>
> Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] meeting and raison d'?tre
> To: "All Accredited At Large Structures ((ALS)) in Africa"
> <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Staff
> <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Message-ID: <02149E06-EC36-45D0-AE7D-B89349A6CF6E at futureperfect.co.za>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hi All,
>
> Firstly, my apologies that I cannot attend the meeting tomorrow. I
> have a standing appointment at work for Wednesday afternoons at 3pm,
> so I appeal that the next meeting is not set for the same time and
> day. Any other day and time should be fine.
>
> Secondly my apologies for what is going to appear to be a rant. I will
> be honest, I do not think it is useful to have an organization that
> does nothing besides talk about itself all the time. If we continue in
> this vain, I cannot understand what is our (Afralos) raison d'?tre.
> (i.e. In the last 35 emails to the list they have contained ONLY
> information about who are members, thanks and blank or forwarded
> emails. The one exception is Nicks email asking 'why are we existing'
> which seems to be the question in hand).
>
> Some comments inline wrt agenda (which is consistent with all other
> comms):
>
> On 05 Aug 2008, at 10:06 AM, Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole wrote:
> > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment:
>
> Please can you ensure that the agenda is distributed at least a few (2
> or more) days before the meeting so that people can comment and
> contribute. My sense is that it need not be huge, just that it always
> has at least a draft agenda, date and time of the meeting plus
> information about how to join.
>
> > Adoption of the agenda
> > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any)
> > Designation of a Chair for the meeting
> > Welcom to MACIS
> > Staff announcements
>
> These seem to all be formalities.... IMHO this could all be sent and
> completed via email (well as much as possible). It shouldn't take more
> than 2 minutes on the telephone call if it is to be productive.
>
> > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa)
>
> I do not think that this is the purpose of the AfRALO. I am already a
> member of 8 other lists where African Internet (and ICANN) issues are
> discussed. In addition there are regular African meetings at ICANN
> events. My sense is that the communications are pretty good. The thing
> I do not understand is where are all the policy discussions that
> relate to African Internet Users, please advise me.
>
> > Interactions with Other RALOS
>
> IMHO, this is the job of the AfRALO representatives and we should get
> some written feedback from them about these. It still does not address
> any material issues that relate to our purpose: Where are all the
> policy discussions that relate to African Internet Users?
>
> > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review
>
> I'm interested to see what comes up here (in the ALAC review).
>
> I recently read on one of the lists where they actually discuss policy
> that relates to end users. As a stub for discussion on policy issues
> that relate to our members, and proposed agenda item, I ask the
> following questions about:
>
> The GNSO reform
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> There is a GNSO reform underway. My understanding is that the GNSO is
> where the work is done that goes to the Board for decision making. It
> also is responsible for a great deal of the inter-constituency debate
> and recommendations that come from that.
>
> One of the reasons for the reform was that the GNSO was not balanced
> wrt interests being represented. Initially the business constituencies
> controlled 9 out of 10 votes (the other one was the non-commercial
> constituency which is the closest to end user or public interests).
> Later, registries and registrars were given some voting, which
> balanced the commercial groups but industry suppliers had too much
> control.
>
> In Paris a small working group was established to review the GNSO
> structure. They appear to be in agreement that there should be a
> balanced number of votes between commercial and non-commercial
> interests in the GNSO. (I expect that we all see end users as non-
> commercial). Unfortunately it has become clear that the ALAC
> representative in this group does not appear supportive of this
> proposed balance. This seems completely wrong, can anyone (ideally one
> of our elected representatives on the ALAC) please explain why this is
> the case? Surely it is our mandate to ensure that users have a voice
> in the GNSO?
>
> Apparently the ALAC representative on the working group is a Nomcom
> appointee and was mainly concerned with retaining Nomcom appointed
> seats. I am not sure if we agree with that. In my opnion, if we
> (Afralo) were operating efficiently, it may be better for us to
> appoint the GNSO representative in place of the Nomcom. What do you
> think?
>
> The feelings I've expressed in this email are not only my perception,
> even those not involved in the ALAC at all are saying: "we see ALAC
> bogged down in its own internal politics and somewhat disconnected
> from the larger issues".
>
> I look forward to reading any comments.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:00:16 +0300
> From: Mohamed EL Bashir <admin at isoc.sd>
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
> To: Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole <dkasole at gmail.com>
> Cc: afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org, At-Large Staff
> <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Message-ID: <489824B0.8030804 at isoc.sd>
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> Dear Didier
>
> Due to a unplanned travel unfortuntely i won't be able to attend tomorrow
> AfRALO meeting .
>
> my Apologies .
>
> Regards,
> Mohamed
>
> Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole wrote:
> |
> | Dear AfRALO memebers
> |
> | Please find next telconference agenda for your comment:
> |
> | Adoption of the agenda
> | Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any)
> | Designation of a Chair for the meeting
> | Welcom to MACIS
> | Staff announcements
> | Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa)
> | Interactions with Other RALOS
> | Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review
> |
> | I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation,
> | number to dial, code etc...
> |
> | Kind regards
> |
> | Didier R Kasole
> | AfRALO Sec.
> |
> |
> | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |
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> |
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org
> |
> | Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org
> |
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:23:40 +0100
> From: "Philemon" <philemon at drtvnet.cg>
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
> To: "'Matthias Langenegger'" <matthias.langenegger at icann.org>,
> "'Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole'" <dkasole at gmail.com>,
> <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Cc: 'At-Large Staff' <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Message-ID: <005701c8f6e5$54b26420$7e01a8c0 at DRTVnet1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Dear Matthias/Didier
>
> If it is not late, please add me on the list for the French channel.
> Sorry for the delay.
>
> Philemon +242 5360396
>
> E-talk to you soon
>
> Cheers
>
> Philemon (ISOC-CONGO)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: afri-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> Matthias
> Langenegger
> Sent: mardi 5 ao?t 2008 09:36
> To: Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole; afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Cc: At-Large Staff
> Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th
>
> Thank you for the agenda, Didier.
>
> Dear AFRALO members,
>
> You find below a list with the phone numbers we will call tomorrow a couple
> of minutes before the start of the AFRALO teleconference at 1300 UTC.
> Please
> get in contact with me if you will not be reachable at one of the provided
> numbers tomorrow.
>
> French Channel:
> Hawa Diakit?, +223 221 20 58, +223 221 08 04, +223 674 35 72
> Fatimata Seye Sylla, +221 33 864 42 84, +221 33 639 31 95
> Didier Kasole, +243 999 912 911, +212 53 35 35 68
> Abdelaziz Hilali. + 212 37 77 83 08 , + 212 37 71 33 63
> Arnold Mulenda Yamukandu, +243 9900 20 922
> Mr. Gabriel Bombambo + 353879184739
>
> English Channel:
> Mohmammed El Bashir, +24 9183766729, +24 9912148139
> Ciza Victor, +25 778 839 000
> Alyoce Menda, +255 755 789 468
>
> Talk to you soon!
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Matthias Langenegger
> At-Large Coordination Officer
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
> Email: matthias.langenegger at icann.org
> Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35
> Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44
> Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger
>
>
>
>
>
> On 05/08/2008 10:06, "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear AfRALO memebers
>
>
>
> Please find next telconference agenda for your comment:
>
>
>
> Adoption of the agenda
>
> Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any)
>
> Designation of a Chair for the meeting
>
> Welcom to MACIS
>
> Staff announcements
>
> Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa)
>
> Interactions with Other RALOS
>
> Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review
>
>
>
> I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation,
> number to dial, code etc...
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Didier R Kasole
>
> AfRALO Sec.
>
> _______________________________________________
> AFRI-Discuss mailing list
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>
> Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org
>
> Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:00:13 -0700
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> Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] [Reminder] AFRALO Monthly Teleconference @ Wed
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> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org, this is a reminder for
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> Title: AFRALO Monthly Teleconference
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> Where: Adigo - Teleconference
> Calendar:
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