[NA-Discuss] [lac-discuss-en] [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss] [ALAC-Announce] IMPORTANT - deuxieme / second / Segundo session - FIRST ATLAS III Webinars in EN with ES, FR interpretation

Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch apisan at unam.mx
Mon Apr 29 05:02:36 UTC 2019

... and in that meeting in London, a call for the At Large to support ICANN in becoming more effective became a point of agreement "to call on ICANN to accept At Large advice more effectively" thus leading to a continual side-show. Then came the At Large Review whose conclusions again were not taken on board. That trend must be reversed.

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Desde: sivasubramanian muthusamy [6.internet at gmail.com]
Enviado el: domingo, 28 de abril de 2019 23:51
Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
CC: Roberto Gaetano; lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; ICANN ALAC list; Discussion for At-Large Europe; afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org; APRALO; na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss] [ALAC-Announce] IMPORTANT - deuxieme / second / Segundo session - FIRST ATLAS III Webinars in EN with ES, FR interpretation


On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 9:28 AM Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx<mailto:apisan at unam.mx>> wrote:

all very good points. One to be emphasized, one added:

1. the money spent is not ICANN's alone; it is from beginning to end registrants' money (but for the always paltry contributions from ccTLDs and RIRs)- and we as At Large are supposed to take most care of it as we claim to represent registrants and users;

2. most users we represent tell us repeatedly that what they want from ICANN is for ICANN to be effective. They care very little, if at all, if the At Large is representative, balanced, what its internal processes are.

For ICANN to be effective, effective not for one stakeholder group, effective for the good of the DNS, a balance needs to prevail. A weak AtLarge, further weakened by arguments to block a million or two every 5 years (out of a 5 year total budget of 300 million or more) further weakens AtLarge, weakens ICANN's effectiveness and would hurt Trust in ICANN and the multi-stakeholder process. We have gone through this argument before - in London.

Certainly every time they find out how much effort and time is spent in discussions that do not improve the operation of ICANN's core responsibilitie they have a field day of fuming against ICANN, which feeds many other adverse streams. More and more we have people who come into ICANN to find what it is about then find a role instead of coming to ICANN with a problem to fix or a principle to promote.

So let's everybody get their act together and follow your example of making people prepared for effectiveness.

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Desde: lac-discuss-en [lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>] en nombre de Roberto Gaetano [roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>]
Enviado el: domingo, 28 de abril de 2019 17:24
Hasta: sivasubramanian muthusamy
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Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss] [ALAC-Announce] IMPORTANT - deuxieme / second / Segundo session - FIRST ATLAS III Webinars in EN with ES, FR interpretation

My personal opinion is that the course is indeed very time consuming in case the person does not know already at least some of the issues.
On the other hand, what would be the return on the investment of supporting a person for attending a conference where that person would be unable to understand the complex issues, letting alone the ability to contribute?
I strongly believe that the purpose of ATLAS III is to be able to significantly progress on the issues that are on ALAC’s table and to provide strategic directions for the future, and that requires participant who are fully informed about the basics and eager to contribute. To bring people who do not fulfil these requirements would be a waste of money - and ICANN is already being criticised enough about the way it spends the money that we do not need to open another front.
The question is, maybe, a different one: why have we waited until the eleventh hour to produce this training material and to urge people to benefit for it? I am currently chairing the EURALO Individual Users Association, and I will invite all the members - about 50 people plus a handful of observers - to get the training, regardless they plan to apply for travel support or not.

On 25.04.2019, at 19:26, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com<mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 7:12 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com<mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
Hello all,

just a quick follow-up on the announcement below. I have received several emails from people who missed this first set of Webinars due to various reasons, and asked me what they could do to qualify for ATLAS III travel support.

The default option is to follow the ICANN Learn Course onhttp://learn.icann.org/

The course, "Domain Names Demystified" corresponds to the Webinar that Alan and I presented.

It is five lessons. It is almost as time consuming as a Certification program that one takes as a 6 months part time online course. It is a high barrier in terms of time commitment just to comply with the stipulations of the pre-requirements for participation in an ATLAS summit.

Wonder if GNSO or GAC requirements for participant funding require the applicant to go through a similar pre-requirement. Have you or members of ALAC tried to go through and complete this program, even though you are not knowledgeable, and even though it is not designed for you, just in order to understand how complex it makes it for those interested in participating in the ATLAS summit?

Sivasubramanian M

Until the application period closes, it is never too late to complete these ATLAS III Preparation Courses. Please see the instructions on:https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=105389506
In order to go directly to the Course Curriculum, after you have logged in (getting an account is super easy), you have to click on "Enrollment Key", which is ATLASIII and then you'll be able to see "Required ATLAS III ICANN Learn Courses" when you click on the "Courses" tab.

And of course, even if you have followed the Webinar, you should be interested in following the course too, because it is very interesting and contains a lot more in depth information, so you'll really know a lot when you arrive in Montréal.
In fact you'll find out that there are a lot of other courses that you could take in the overall course "catalog" - all free and all giving you the ability to learn more about many aspects of ICANN's space, and beyond!

Kindest regards,


On 24/04/2019 01:30, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:

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Dear All,

On behalf of Joanna Kulesza and Alfredo Calderon, Co-Chairs of the ATLAS III Capacity Building Sub Group, we would like to invite you to join the first webinars of the mandatory ATLAS III Webinars<https://community.icann.org/x/wh1IBg>: Domain Names,  which will be held in English with French and Spanish interpretation.

The trainers are Alan Greenberg<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Alan+Greenberg+SOI> and Olivier Crépin-Leblond<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=36211634>.

The replicated webinars are scheduled on:

  1.  Tuesday 23 April at 21:00 UTC – for other times:https://tinyurl.com/yyffk4us [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yyffk4us&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=eQBcB4eBgwEZxQeAZJeQeFUUTr6x4KvAQXdEKMSioFw&e=>
     *   Call details: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg

  1.  Wednesday 24 April at 12:00 UTC – for other times:https://tinyurl.com/y289axqq [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_y289axqq&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=IOS7Z7fDPJZh5K5Q14RbcZ6opCjziP0V3W1JB2HywxI&e=>
     *   Call details: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg

To meet the attendance requirements for ATLAS III, participants must join both the Adigo Bridge as well as the Adobe Connect Room no more than 10 minutes after the scheduled start time.
There will be questions asked at the end of each webinar. These are compulsory if you want to complete the courses in French or Spanish.
(note Application Guidelines<https://community.icann.org/x/cgB1Bg> under ATLAS III Prep Courses),

Adobe Connect:  https://participate.icann.org/atlas3

Conference IDs:
EN: 1638
ES: 1738
FR: 1838

If you require a dial-out, please contact At-Large Staff at staff at atlarge.icann.org (do not reply to all) with:

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Thank you.
Kind regards,

Queridos todos,

En nombre de Joanna Kulesza y Alfredo Calderón, Copresidentes del Subgrupo de Desarrollo de Capacidades de ATLAS III, nos gustaría invitarlos a participar en el primer seminario web de los seminarios web obligatorios de ATLAS III: Nombres de dominio, que se celebrarán en inglés y la interpretación en español y en francés.

Los presentadores estaràn Alan Greenberg y Olivier Crépin-Leblond.

Los webinars replicados están programados en:
1. Martes 23 de abril a las 21:00 UTC - para otros horarios:https://tinyurl.com/yyffk4us [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yyffk4us&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=eQBcB4eBgwEZxQeAZJeQeFUUTr6x4KvAQXdEKMSioFw&e=>
a. Detalles de la llamada: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg
2. Miércoles 24 de abril a las 12:00 UTC, para otros horarios: https://tinyurl.com/y289axqq [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_y289axqq&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=IOS7Z7fDPJZh5K5Q14RbcZ6opCjziP0V3W1JB2HywxI&e=>
a. Detalles de la llamada: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg

Para cumplir con los requisitos de asistencia para ATLAS III, los participantes deben unirse tanto a Adigo Bridge como a Adobe Connect Room no más de 10 minutos después de la hora de inicio programada. Habrá preguntas al final de cada seminario web. Estos son obligatorios si desea completar los cursos en francés o español. (tome nota de las Pautas de aplicación<https://community.icann.org/x/cgB1Bg> bajo los cursos de preparación ATLAS III).

Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/atlas3

ID de conferencia:
EN: 1638
ES: 1738
FR: 1838

Si necesita una llamada de salida, comuníquese con el personal de At-Large en staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org> (no responda a todos) con:

  *   fecha y hora del webinar
  *   canal de idioma
  *   Su número de teléfono preferido.

Saludos cordiales,

Chers tous,

Au nom de Joanna Kulesza et Alfredo Calderon, co-présidents du sous-groupe de renforcement des capacités d'ATLAS III, nous vous invitons à participer au premiers webinaires des webinaires obligatoires d'ATLAS III: Noms de Domaines, qui se dérouleront en anglais avec interpretation en français et espagnol.

Les présentateurs seront Alan Greenberg et Olivier Crépin-Leblond.

Les webinaires répliqués sont programmés:

  1.  Mardi 23 avril à 21h00 UTC - pour les autres heures:https://tinyurl.com/yyffk4us [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yyffk4us&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=eQBcB4eBgwEZxQeAZJeQeFUUTr6x4KvAQXdEKMSioFw&e=>

     *   Détails de l'appel: https://community.icann.org/x/GAJ1Bg

  1.  Mercredi 24 avril à 12h00 UTC - pour les autres heures: https://tinyurl.com/y289axqq [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_y289axqq&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=ds9md1zoepmwqw2nfk-Vs9ssxn1I3jPs97ekKkctEkM&m=ljy0Z2ABZhpruf87aP0KI0E4GX3brnzA427Twq7a0cE&s=IOS7Z7fDPJZh5K5Q14RbcZ6opCjziP0V3W1JB2HywxI&e=>
     *   Détails de l'appel: https://community.icann.org/x/GwJ1Bg

Pour répondre aux critères de participation à ATLAS III, les participants doivent se joinder à la ligne Adigo et la salle Adobe Connect au plus tard 10 minutes après l'heure de début prévue. Des questions seront posées à la fin de chaque webinaire. Celles-ci sont obligatoires si vous souhaitez compléter les cours en français ou en espagnol.
(notez les directives d’application<https://community.icann.org/x/cgB1Bg> dans les cours de préparation au ATLAS III)

Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/atlas3

ID de conférence:
EN: 1638
ES: 1738
FR: 1838

Si vous avez besoin qu’une opératrice vous connecte, veuillez contacter le personnel At-Large à staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org> (ne pas répondre à tous) avec:

  *   La date et heure du wébinaire
  *   Langue
  *   Votre numéro de téléphone préféré.

Nous vous en remercions.

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