[NA-Discuss] ARIN Policy on Community Networks

Marita Moll mmoll at ca.inter.net
Thu Jun 1 18:50:15 UTC 2017


Yes, I did speak to Alyssa Moore (from Cybera in Alberta) who is one of 
the shepherds during the meeting and she is very amenable to helping us 
get this through. But it would also be good to speak to one of the 
people who originally got this policy on the books whose name was (I 
think) David Farmer.

Marita


On 6/1/2017 12:46 PM, Susannah Gray wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can 
> put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be 
> as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy 
> mailing list and asking the community for comments.
>
> As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there was 
> no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about community 
> networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO 
> representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next 
> meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to 
> circulate a proposed definition before then.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Susannah
>
>
> On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:
>>
>> We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The 
>> result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and 
>> that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they 
>> be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.
>>
>> At least, that's how I remember it.
>>
>> Marita
>>
>>
>> On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
>>>
>>> ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
>>>
>>> Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an 
>>> intervention.  Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita  who are experts on 
>>> community networks
>>>
>>> My own focus is very small community network(mesh)
>>> G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glenn McKnight
>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>> skype  gmcknight
>>> twitter gmcknight
>>> 289-830 6259
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray 
>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Marita
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the
>>>>     reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda &
>>>>     South Africa.
>>>>
>>>     - www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's AFRINIC's
>>>     grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use
>>>     the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community
>>>     network projects mentioned are:
>>>
>>>     Tobesta (ZA):
>>>     https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016
>>>     <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
>>>
>>>     Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016
>>>     <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>
>>>     Susannah
>>>
>>>>     Marita
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
>>>>>     Hi
>>>>>     If you recall at the last  ARIN meeting we saw many of our
>>>>>      NARALO members comment on the   ARIN Community Networks policy
>>>>>
>>>>>     See policy document
>>>>>     https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
>>>>>     <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>     I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community
>>>>>     networks  today and they too are struggling with fee structure
>>>>>     for AFRNIC Membership from community networks.   Note they
>>>>>     fund  FIRE  which has funded community networks in Uganda and
>>>>>     in South Africa.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Perhaps  we need to ask our community to request financial
>>>>>     support for ARIN for community networks as well.
>>>>>     Comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Glenn McKnight
>>>>>     mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>     skype  gmcknight
>>>>>     twitter gmcknight
>>>>>     289-830 6259 <tel:%28289%29%20830-6259>
>>>>>     .
>>>>>
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