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Javier Rua javrua at gmail.com
Tue Jan 17 19:21:23 UTC 2017


@John And I thought you "really, d(id) not want to get into this parochial political fight"!

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On Jan 17, 2017, at 3:17 PM, John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com> wrote:

>> With the exception of U.S. VI we don't have ALSes from the other territories, and we have tried to recruit them...
>> 
>> For some of the Pacific territories, APRALO said "hands off" I think
> 
> They better not have -- Guam and Saipan are as American as PR and the USVI.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/17/17 12:51 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
>>>> This  is the self identified  view of all three of the PR  reps that
>>>> provided feedback on the card.
>>> I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
>>> If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico.  This is not negotiable.
>>> R's,
>>> John
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com> wrote:
>>>>> I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
>>>>>>> Canadian, of course). ...
>>>>> I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight.
>>>>> Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel
>>>>> freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
>>>>> There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the
>>>>> facts are what they are.  PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the
>>>>> U.S., not because of its physical location.  Cuba and the Bahamas are
>>>>> closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because
>>>>> they're not part of the U.S.
>>>>> On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we
>>>>> need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and
>>>>> perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S.
>>>>> even though they're physically located in other regions.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
>>>>> Dummies",
>>>>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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>>> Regards,
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> Regards,
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> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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