[NA-Discuss] Seeking Regional Advice for a New ALS
Louis Houle
louis.houle at oricom.ca
Sat Feb 20 20:57:47 UTC 2016
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Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec
Le 2016-02-13 08:34, Glenn McKnight a écrit :
> I agree with Evan's comments that the level of inquiry appears to be
> a bit evasive or or at least out of scope. Evan's ALS as many of us
> wear multiple hats and full disclosure could be misunderstood. In the
> defense of the process of deep dive inquiry I think the intention has
> some validity as to getting to know new organizations, especially as
> to their composition and group endorsement. Very importantly is the
> role of the substitute. In recent months for our engagement the second
> contacts in our database tend to be irrelevant so the process needs
> some serious rethink.
>
> I am confident that ISOC Washington DC meets the current ALS due
> diligence. New processes need to be discussed in context to the ALS
> Review process.
>
> Glenn
>
> Glenn McKnight
> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
> skype gmcknight
> twitter gmcknight
> .
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org
> <mailto:evan at telly.org>> wrote:
>
> CLUE wholeheartedly supports the application.
>
> Frankly, I am puzzled why this particular application demands a
> level of due diligence not expended on other applications -- down
> to describing unnamed members of the applicant involved in ICANN
> through other channels.
>
> Full disclosure: Within NARALO I am here representing one ALS, the
> Canadian Linux User Exchange. However, I am also a member of
> another ALS (GTALUG, though I fear I may not have renewed properly
> since my move), on the Board of Directors of a third (ISOC
> Canada), and a participant in a fourth ALS not even in this region
> (ISOC Switzerland).
>
> Am I in trouble?
>
> Is there a rule somewhere that demands only one entry point, or
> even considers such broad involvement a Bad Thing?
>
> Exactly when did such cross-participation become an issue worth
> flagging?
>
> - Evan
>
>
> On 12 February 2016 at 18:36, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com
> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Nathalie,
>
> In this case I support the application.
>
> joly
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Nathalie Peregrine
> <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
> <mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear Joly and Judith,
>
> The answer to 5d is in the application form:d. Are the
> leaders of your organization, as individuals, involved in
> other similar organizations or entities? "Yes
>
> If yes, please say which ones: IGF, IGF-USA, ICANN, etc"
>
>
> The Youtube link is copied over two lines, and therefore
> needs to be copied and pasted into a browser:
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4buVHalBRoOTPG23ZZfndjPr1iHqznaa
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> Nathalie
>
>
>
> From: <na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> <mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on
> behalf of "judith at jhellerstein.com
> <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>" <judith at jhellerstein.com
> <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>>
> Date: Friday, February 12, 2016 at 8:38 AM
> To: "joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>"
> <joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>>
> Cc: NA-Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Seeking Regional Advice for a
> New ALS
>
> Hi Joly,
>
> Thanks for your comments. As we found out there is no way
> to amend the application so we added an amendment. We had
> seen several missing pieces and flagged several for
> questions to the applicant. We will notate this for our
> records. We will be writing a paper to give to Holly about
> changes we would like to see on the application so if you
> or others have any suggestion please do let us know.
>
> Best,
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:34 AM, Joly MacFie
> <joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>> wrote:
>
>> In the application, not that it matters much, there is no
>> answer to 5 d) and the YouTube playlist cited in 6 c) is
>> not found.
>> j
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Judith Hellerstein
>> <judith at jhellerstein.com
>> <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi ALSes,
>>
>> We are seeking Regional Advice for a new ALS, The
>> Great Washington DC Internet Society has applied to
>> be an ALS in NARALO. I am sending their application
>> to you along with an addendum for regional advice.
>> As Glenn and I discovered there are many problems
>> with the current application process especially as
>> you can not amend the application to add in
>> additional information. As such we are attaching an
>> addendum. I have also added some notes to the
>> application. Additionally, the group has Organization
>> Members who provide financial support to the
>> organization and have seats on the Council.
>>
>> Also for transparency purposes we add that the
>> Washington DC ISOC chapter is also involved with
>> another ICANN constituency, they are a member of
>> NPOC. However, there is no real place on the
>> application for to show this. Additionally, as their
>> by-laws state
>> <http://www.isoc-dc.org/by-laws-2015/>http://www.isoc-dc.org/by-laws-2015/
>> , the Executive Director is a paid position.
>> Remuneration amounts were not provided. My hope is
>> always that all new ALSes that join NARALO will
>> become actively involved and join several working
>> groups and committees. Additionally one of their
>> Council Members, Stephen Miller is an ICANN staff
>> member. Another Council member is already heavily
>> engaged with NARALO under a separate ALS. She has
>> indicated to me that she prefers to remain active
>> with that ALS and not with ISOC DC.
>>
>> Please do let me know by the end of next week if you
>> support having this group join as an ALS member. When
>> you write me, please state the ALS you are
>> representing to we can have an accurate count. I look
>> forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Judith Hellerstein
>> NARALO Secretary
>>
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