[NA-Discuss] Suspension of Posting Privileges for Eric Brunner Williams

Sat Jun 22 16:31:03 UTC 2013

Hiding in interpretations of wording is a really sorry state of affairs.

You, and anyone that has had the misfortune of ever looking at it, knows
that the affiliated, non-affiliated and ALS membership situation is a
complete mess. It is also one that NARALO officials have failed to resolve
despite knowing the problems for years.

Producing ad hoc solutions every time it becomes a problem - and then
rigidly sticking by them until the next ad hoc solution - is the epitome of
poor management.

Will you please get over yourselves and do what is obviously the right
thing:

* State that Eric Brunner-Williams is entitled to stand as chair and put
him on the ballot. If necessary sort out any affiliation issues later

* Remove this arbitrary requirement that he apologize to someone for a
message sent two months ago

* Remember that you are there to serve and represent North American users,
not yourselves

Kieren

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On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>wrote:

> Kieren, I do not wish to wade into this morass, but I will correct two
> errors in fact:
>
> - As the person who must track unaffiliated members so that I can carry
> out my function as their voting representative, I can say that Eric is not
> an unaffiliated member of NARALO.
> - The process of rectifying this has nothing to do with ALS certification,
> but requires that he send a simple three line e-mail which for reasons
> unknown to me he has not done although informed of the procedures.
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 6/21/2013 10:29 PM, Kieren McCarthy wrote:
>
>> So, to recap:
>>
>> During elections, someone who says they wish to stand for chair is:
>>
>> * Told they insulted someone two months earlier
>> * Suspended from posting to an open list
>> * Told that their credentials are not correct
>> * Informed that they are not eligible to stand for chair
>>
>> In order to be allowed to continue, this person is told to:
>>
>>
>> * Apologize for a message that so far no one has been able to ascertain
>> who
>> it is and what he should be apologizing for
>> * To resubmit his ALS application - which presumably would push him past
>> the election time
>>
>>
>> When this series of events is questioned by other members of the
>> community,
>> we learn the following:
>>
>> * All the decisions made were made by the Chair and Secretary with some
>> level of consultation with the ALAC chair
>> * That it was a "really hard" decision and that those three people are
>> committed to open discussion, despite the clear evidence otherwise
>>
>> When no less than four community members continue to question the process,
>> the response is that these three people stand by their decision. No other
>> information is provided.
>>
>>
>> So, some questions:
>>
>> * Who exactly did Eric Brunner-Williams insult and by saying what? No one
>> on this list has seen any evidence of it.
>>
>> * When exactly did the NARALO chair and secretary get to decide they could
>> introduce arbitrary conditions for membership of the organization?
>>
>> * Where are these discussions documented and why did the parties in
>> question not use the Ombudsman process rather than decide between
>> themselves what the appropriate action was?
>>
>> * Why do "elected" NARALO representatives feel that they do not have to
>> respond to the clear concerns expressed by the community they are there to
>> represent?
>>
>>
>> This is really poor even for the low standards set by NARALO.
>>
>>
>> Kieren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kieren McCarthy
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>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > as Chair of the ALAC, I am always concerned about a breaking of the
>> > inclusive atmosphere in any part of our community.
>> >
>> > One such cause is the writing of ad-hominem accusations on the list.
>> > This ends up being archived, picked up by search engines and ultimately
>> > makes everybody look bad.
>> > I too am sad that it had to come to this - but we are all grown up
>> > people here and we do not need to pick at each other personally. I
>> > understand sometimes that debates and discussions can get out of hand.
>> > But offending other people is not the way that we'll manage to better
>> > channel the points of view of Internet users into the ICANN process -
>> > and it is not the way we'll encourage more people to get involved and to
>> > contribute, because a hostile atmosphere will scare them away.
>> > For this reason, Garth had my full support for his actions that he had
>> > to take as NARALO Chair.
>> >
>> > If Eric feels he has been unfairly treated, the Ombudsman is indeed a
>> > possible avenue for appeal.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Olivier Crépin-Leblond
>> > ALAC Chair
>> >
>> > On 21/06/2013 17:07, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
>> > > Our Chair can add conditions to re-instatement before a person is
>> > allowed back on the list.  This particular case was discussed with the
>> ALAC
>> > Chair as well as the NARALO leadership and this course was accepted.
>>  The
>> > Code of Conduct is a document that was agreed to by the NARALO.  This
>> > action was also not taken upon just one instance of a violation of the
>> Code
>> > of Conduct.  This was the third time showing a pattern of abuse.  Garth
>> > really did not want to take this action because of the perception of a
>> > "rival to his position" being silenced.  However, as Chair, he did have
>> to
>> > take action because this was about abuse of our members.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> > http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>> >
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