[NA-Discuss] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Seeking Re-election to NARALO Chair

Eric Brunner-Williams ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net
Tue Jun 4 23:01:06 UTC 2013


The following was sent earlier to na-discuss (datestamp inline), and
does not yet appear in the list archives,

http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/na-discuss/2013-June/date.html

and so is resent.

Eric Brunner-Williams
Eugene, Oregon




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: Re: [NA-Discuss] Seeking Re-election to NARALO Chair
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 14:58:54 -0700
From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net>
Reply-To: ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net
Organization: wampumpeag
To: Garth Bruen at KnujOn <gbruen at knujon.com>

I omitted to cc you. Corrected.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Seeking Re-election to NARALO Chair
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 14:26:35 -0700
From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net>
Reply-To: ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net
Organization: wampumpeag
To: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org

On 6/4/13 12:49 PM, Garth Bruen wrote:
> All fair questions. 

Not everyone seems to think so, I appreciate that you do.

>                  The issue of the Commonwealth certificate is one of
> unfortunate government bureaucracy. The certificate was renewed but not
> updated, this has been in the hands of my lawyer for months. The
> Commonwealth demands $500 a year for this certificate and offers absolutely
> no service in return. This $500 which comes out of our modest budget which
> would be much better spent on other activities, hence the Vermont
> organization.

All quite reasonable.

> Once again, this may be another victim of government bureaucracy since "
> ROBERTG BRUEN" or " no-name-given" was probably supposed to be me in the
> document. This Vermont entity is our non-profit foundation which is
> completely donation-based and serves the Internet user at large on policy
> consultation completely free of charge. However, instead of simply taking my
> word for it I would suggest you contact the document members (one of whom is
> on this list) and ask them who they put forward for representing the
> organization to ICANN NARALO.

You may be mistaking my interest.

The offers of proof as I understand them are:

Knujon Org, a Vermont corporation, is the successor in interest to ALS
#122, held previously by Knujon.com, a Massachusetts LLC, according to
Garth Bruen.

Knujon Org, a Vermont corporation, is the personal property ("my
non-profit organization") of Bob Bruen, a separate entity from
KuuJon.com LLC, in which Garth "is not part", according to Bob Bruen.

KnujOn Org and Cold Rain Technologies are each a separate entity
from KnujOn.com with no reason to be involved in these discussions,
according to Bob Bruen.

The "members of record" of ALS #122 are a dissolved Massachusetts
Limited Liability Corporation, and a Vermont S-Corporation for which
the State of Vermont Corporate search does not return a record.

If these offers of proof are without contradiction, then ALS #122
consists of neither the corporation Knujon.com, as it has been
dissolved, nor the corporation Cold Rain Technologies, as it too does
not exist. Alternatively, if Cold Rain Technologies exists, it is the
personal property of an individual who asserts an absolute bar to
corporate disclosure related to ALS #122, and also asserts neither
KnujOn Org, a Vermont corporation, nor Cold Rain Technologies, have a
relationship with ALS #122 sufficient to provide a "reason to be
involved in these discussions".

Who then, are members of ALS #122?

The response to question 1.a. Structure and Governance, concerning the
constitution of the applicant so that individual members in the region
are possessed of an ability to control the organization was "No".

The response to question 2.a. Do you have individual members with the
ability to vote in or otherwise control the management of the
organization? was "No", consistent with the several claims of private
ownership of the member entities, and of ALS #122.

The response to question 2.b. Do you have organisations as all or part
of your membership? was "No".

What is the governance process of ALS #122?

The response to question 1.d. "Describe your Organization's structure
(e.g. governing and decision- making bodies and processes)" appears to
be completely vacated by the offers of proof, supra.

Is there something you could add that would help me arrive at a
different understanding of the current status of ALS #122?

Eric Brunner-Williams
Eugene, Oregon









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