[NA-Discuss] Reporting on Durban meeting

Dharma Dailey dharma.dailey at gmail.com
Mon Jul 22 17:50:09 UTC 2013


Hi Kieren, 

I haven't forgotten your suggestion before the meeting for communicating back to the NARALO about the meeting.  I heartily agree that for those of us who can't regularly attend meetings, it's super helpful to get a birds eye view analysis from our reps on the ground. IMO, that's low hanging fruit on the engagement continuum. Before attending, I imagined that I might send communications on the fly, but the way the schedule is constructed doesn't lend itself to reflection and synthesis. For example, on Sunday we were in meetings for 13 + hours straight.  So, I quickly abandoned the idea of trying to report on the fly.  However, I did leave with 31 pages of typed notes which I will wheedle down to one woman's guess at what will be of most interest to you and the rest of NARALO.  One consequence of the travel and conference schedule was that I came back with a wicked cold. So, it may take me a few days to report back. 

Best Regards, 
Dharma Dailey



On Jul 22, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Garth Bruen" <gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:

> Kieren,
> 
> Thanks for the comment. Our elections are critical and getting them right is
> even more important. 
> 
> As far as reporting goes I would like to draw your attention to this
> document: http://www.knujon.com/icann_compliance_2012.pdf which shows that
> ICANN's internal compliance function is essentially non-functional
> regardless of recently published data by ICANN. This was a follow up to a
> report sent directly to the CEO
> (http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/bruen-to-chehade-22apr13-en.pdf
> ) which has not been responded to. 
> 
> ICANN is failing the public At-Large and won't discuss these core concerns,
> has been completely silent on them. I think you can help by raising your
> voice to ask about them as well from within our community. 
> 
> There is a very long report log here:
> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Durban+Meeting+Reports+
> Workspace which is being constantly updated by At-Large representatives,
> even remote ones. Working groups regularly give reports on our monthly
> calls. We'd love to have you come on and give your perspective, let me know.
> 
> So, it's not really a question of reporting from At-Large, it's more of a
> question of why we have to leave our families and travel thousands of miles
> just to be ignored by ICANN. It's really not that much fun. If the problems
> could be solved and questions answered, we wouldn't have to go at all.
> 
> -Garth
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Kieren
> McCarthy
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:09 PM
> To: na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] VOTE RESULTS: 2013 NARALO Secretary Selection
> 
> I wish as much time, energy and effort had gone into informing us about the
> meeting you were paid as our representatives to attend last week in Durban
> as has been out into bickering about voting procedures.
> 
> 
> Kieren
> 
> 
> [from mobile device]
> 
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> I presume that by "incumbent" you mean people in office such as the ALAC
> members or ALAC Chair (usually it is used referring to the person who is in
> office but is in a contested election).
>> 
>> I guess our experiences are different. Certainly someone who is part of a
> current organization is familiar with the others who may be in a contested
> election. But KNOW is definitely not the same as TRUST and not infrequently
> KNOW is synonymous with wanting someone new. (And I am not implying anything
> about the people in the current election).
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> At 21/07/2013 02:34 PM, toml at communisphere.com wrote:
>>> Alan,
>>> 
>>> What I am trying to say is that incumbents will better know and trust a
> known player. Amopholy (sp?), might describe the human response that Option
> 4 draws upon. There are both good and bad associated with this. Random is
> life.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> T9m Lowenhaupt
>> 
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