[NA-Discuss] Travel Issues Sub-Report and China Visa

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Mon Feb 18 21:43:09 UTC 2013

I received a reminder from Joseph last Wednesday 
asking that anyone with questions (or presumably problems) contact him.

I hope that others received it as well, and 
suggest that if you are still having issues, contact him immediately.


At 18/02/2013 04:02 PM, Garth Bruen wrote:
>Thanks for sharing the info.
>I note that form only seems to serve a handful 
>of cities, mostly in western Europe and Canada, 
>with a few Asia-Pacific locations.
>We have to remember that at each meeting there 
>is likely someone receiving travel support for 
>the first time, no one knows what to expect. I 
>can attest there is a steep learning curve and 
>you have to keep asking questions as you don’t 
>always get an answer or the right answer.
>I know there are folks in the group who do not 
>have CNNIC invitation letters yet and some who 
>do not have hotel documentation yet.
>Please keep me updated as to your situations.
>From: evanleibovitch at gmail.com 
>[mailto:evanleibovitch at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Evan Leibovitch
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:48 PM
>To: Garth Bruen
>Cc: NARALO Discussion List; Alan Greenberg
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Travel Issues Sub-Report and China Visa
>I received the same instructions as Alan.
>I submitted my application to the Chinese 
>consulate in Toronto in person; for "major 
>family members". I just put my wife.
>There is an online visa application form that does an excellent sanity check:
>At the visa centre they kept the CNNIC 
>invitation (a printed PDF version was 
>acceptable) but gave me back the ICANN one; that 
>seemed useless. I don't recall if they looked at 
>the hotel booking or flight itinerary but they didn't keep that either.
>Anyone with further immediate issues might get 
>faster answers from Alan or me than from CT.
>(Truth be told, any issues should have been 
>addressed some time ago. This hasn't exactly 
>taken anyone by surprise. Anyone who receives 
>travel subsidy from ICANN still has a 
>responsibility to ensure their own travel 
>affairs are in order; staff can't be expected to 
>understand - let alone anticipate - everyone's individual circumstances. )
>On 2013-02-18 1:29 PM, "Garth Bruen" 
><<mailto:gbruen at knujon.com>gbruen at knujon.com> wrote:
>Thanks Alan,
>I did not receive the instructions, and apparently those who forwarded other
>questions didn't get it either.
>I think the appropriate response would have been to resend those
>instructions or confirm that we had them.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca]
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:25 PM
>To: Garth Bruen; 
><mailto:na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Travel Issues Sub-Report and China Visa
>At 18/02/2013 11:01 AM, Garth Bruen wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >As we get China visa deadlines I have been relaying a number of
> >questions to constituency travel. The NARALO Chair sub-report on Travel
> >Issues has been moved and updated:
> ><https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NAR 
> ALO+Chair+Reports+on+Trav>https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Chair+Reports+on+Trav
> >el+Assistance+2013
> >
> >If you have additional concerns please forward them to me and I will
> >bundle them with the other questions and share the responses with the
> >
> >In general it appears that the deadline for submitting your visa
> >application is THIS WEEK in order to comply with ICANN's timeline.
> >However, there are still some unanswered questions concerned the
> >details of the visa application itself which I am trying to clarify
> >with CT. Unfortunately, the answer to two questions from a NARALO
> >member were met with "Please see the CT Application Form guide in the
> >email" - the answers were not in there which is why they were asked in the
>first place.
> >
> >Most importantly, the application "package" requires hotel
> >confirmation. If you are like me, you do not in fact have a hotel
> >confirmation in your itinerary, only hotel information. Will this be
> >enough? Has anyone received more specific confirmation?
>I received a hotel confirmation on ICANN letterhead on Jan 17th, along with
>a very detailed description of how to complete the visa application (copy
>attached here). I think that this is the guide referred to in red on your
>wiki page.
>The only thing that was not crystal clear to me was what to fill in
>3.6 on Major Family Members. I thought that it was only for family
>travelling with you, but they want just what they are asking for.
>Specifically, if earlier say you are married, you should include your spouse
> >With the narrow timeframe for obtaining the visa, paired with the
> >amount of detail required, there seems to be a number of things which can
>go wrong.
> >
> >-Garth
> >
> >
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