[NA-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Draft FY 12 Community Travel Support Guidelines

Beau Brendler beaubrendler at earthlink.net
Tue Jul 5 03:40:32 UTC 2011

Same here...I was in the room as well as were lots of others who couldn't vote.

Also, people did file their meeting reports, but in some cases posted them to the skype chat, like me. Couldn't get the new wiki to accept my login or send me a new one, so I posted my meeting reports in the chat. They are more immediate, useful and interactive that way anyway.

I will suggest to Danny that he join Skype chat as well.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Mok <mok at hknet.com>
>Sent: Jun 23, 2011 3:03 AM
>To: ALAC Internal List <alac-internal at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>Cc: "na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Draft FY 12 Community Travel Support Guidelines
>Dear all,
>I was there and I did not have voting privilege.  I support Darlene's
>Charles Mok
>On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1 at gov.nu.ca>wrote:
>> I would like to draw your attention to comments that Danny Younger posted
>> in the ICANN public comments in regards to the Draft FY 12 Community Travel
>> Support Guidelines and my response thereto.
>> Danny Younger's Comment:
>> I draw the community’s attention to the primary purpose of the Travel
>> Support Guidelines, namely to “advance the work of ICANN”.
>> Yesterday I remotely participated in an ALAC meeting where a vote was being
>> conducted.  Quorum was barely reached as a large number of ALAC members that
>> we financially supported to attend such meetings chose not to be present.
>>  This is not the first occasion of travel-supported ALAC members being noted
>> as missing-in-action.  It has become a pattern.
>> Needless to say, I am thoroughly disgusted by such behavior.
>> I have certain expectations.  Just as I expect certain other communities
>> (such as the registries and registrars) to either police their own behaviors
>> or face the prospect of regulations being foisted upon them, so too do I
>> expect the at-large community to engage in self-policing.
>> To date, whatever measures the at-large community has taken to ensure that
>> travel-support recipients are actually engaged in “work” have not been
>> effective – abusive behavior continues unchecked and wastes the resources
>> that have generously been allocated.
>> I am of the view that ICANN must now step in to forcefully deal with this
>> situation as community self-policing efforts have clearly failed.
>> My own recommendation would be to impose a moratorium on all at-large
>> travel support until such time as the ALAC develops a policy to effectively
>> deal with the abuses in its own camp.
>> My response:
>> I would like to publicly respond to Danny Younger’s comment.  I was at the
>> meeting he referred to.
>> At the ALAC vote, nine out of fifteen of the ALAC members were present.  Of
>> the six that were not present, three were not in Singapore and did not
>> receive travel support (Jean-Jacques Subrenat, Gareth Shearman and Marc
>> Rotenberg).  The people who received travel support in their stead were
>> present at the meeting but did not have voting privileges.  Mohamed El
>> Bashir was not present at the meeting because he was ill with food poisoning
>> but gave his support to the vote by e-mail and Carlton Samuels was in
>> another meeting.  This leaves but one person unaccounted for.
>> I am against all measures that Danny Younger suggested as he obviously
>> wrote his comment before he gathered the relevant information.
>> Darlene
>> Darlene A. Thompson
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>> dthompson at gov.nu.ca
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