[NA-Discuss] Forward motion on the Egyptian Internet shutdown

Garth Bruen at KnujOn gbruen at knujon.com
Mon Jan 31 15:10:35 UTC 2011


I would say ask AFRALO first, see what they're talking about, if they
have a plan, can can we support their plan.

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> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Forward motion on the Egyptian Internet shutdown
> From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
> Date: Mon, January 31, 2011 8:42 am
> To: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml at communisphere.com>,        Gareth Shearman
> <shearman at victoria.tc.ca>
> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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> 
> OK, since this discussion took place on the NA list, help me with the next step, if there is one.
> 
> Is the consensus that NA should draft a short statement? I would urge against it. Though I personally believe something should be said, it is for ALAC to make the move, and leadership of AF-RALO should take the lead -- and whether that means creating a statement, or urging ICANN as an organization to do something should also be specified.
> 
> So the choices are:
> 
> a) Make a short NA statement.
> b) Make no NA statement but vociferously tell the ALAC to make a statement and/or advise ICANN to do so.
> c) What?
> 
> Beau
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml at communisphere.com>
> >Sent: Jan 31, 2011 12:36 AM
> >To: Gareth Shearman <shearman at victoria.tc.ca>
> >Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: The Internet Society on Egypt’s Internet shutdown
> >
> >+1
> >
> >On 1/31/2011 12:32 AM, Gareth Shearman wrote:
> >> + 1
> >>
> >> Gareth
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2011-01-30, at 8:45 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Well then we disagree.
> >>>
> >>> For the more we discuss it, the more convinced I become that ICANN should make a statement declaring, at the very least, this sort of behavior to be incompatible with the well being of the Internet and contrary to international covenants related to freedom of information.
> >>>
> >>> If ICANN is going to have credibility in its role as a steward of the Internet, it must not let this pass uncommented.  If it does, then it will share responsibility for all future such action by virtue of its silence.
> >>>
> >>> John, I thank you for helping me see the issue more clearly.
> >>>
> >>> a.
> >>>
> >>> On 30 Jan 2011, at 23:30, John R. Levine wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> But certainly I think ICANN can describe what sorts of behavior is and is not appropriate and certainly I think that allocation policy can look at taking such behaviors into account.
> >>>> I am unalterably opposed to any proposal in which ICANN would purport to tell any government what to do.  That just makes us look silly.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not like the Egyptian government is unaware of what they've done, after all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
> >>>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
> >>>>
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