[NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position statement on GAC scorecard

[ICANN At-Large Staff]

Hi Antony, 

As was first announced on At-Large mailing lists in September 2010, the
At-Large community wiki pages have been migrated away from Social Text (the
link you noted below) to Confluence. 

The link to the At-Large community wiki pages can be found at:
https://community.icann.org/dashboard.action. 

You may find the At-Large Wiki Guide, available at:
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At+Large+Wiki+Guide, to be of
use. 

Regards,

Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, 
ICANN At-Large Staff


-----Original Message-----
From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Antony Van
Couvering
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:31 PM
To: Beau Brendler
Cc: Darlene Thompson; NA Discuss
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position
statement on GAC scorecard

Beau Brendler,

If you don't mind, since you made the announcement of your "duty" public, I
would like your rationale to be made publicly too.  I seem recall an
insistence on transparency at ICANN emanating from some quarters of ICANN.

FWIW, I didn't intend the statement you quote as a threat and have a hard
time understanding how it could be construed as such.   So I would like your
rationale on the record.   If you decline to provide one in public, I would
like you to withdraw your warning.  I would also appreciate you being
specific as to the supposed personal attack I made, because on reviewing
that I have a hard time how what I said could be construed that way either.


In addition, I would appreciate a link to the rules of conduct for the
NA-discuss list, and to any other organization or procedural rules for
NARALO .  I can't find anything on the NARALO site
(https://st.icann.org/naralo/), which appears to be woefully out of date. 

Thanks,

Antony


On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:

> My caution has nothing to do with your opinion -- Richard Tindal is
expressing very similar opinions to yours, and there's quite a good
discussion ensuing. Opinions are welcome. Personal attacks (as one list
member complained about when he said he would add you to his troll list) and
threats (as I read your comment below, in the context of the e-mails before
and after it, to be) aren't. If you need further specifics e-mail me offline
or call me on the phone, I'm in the book in the New York area.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc>
>> Sent: Apr 1, 2011 3:56 PM
>> To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC position
statement on GAC scorecard
>> 
>> Beau Brendler,
>> 
>> I see that Jeff Williams and I have something in common at last....
>> 
>> Could you be more specific as to how these words imply a threat?  I am
excited to know that I have a home in ICANN at last and I want to make sure
that I don't do it again. 
>> 
>> Antony Van Couvering
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Beau Brendler wrote:
>> 
>>> Antony Van Couvering,
>>> 
>>> As chairman of NARALO, I believe it's my duty to inform you this e-mail
communication, specifically the part that says "I've done pretty well
ignoring all the baiting up until now though, don't you think?  You have no
idea of the steely discipline I have imposed on myself," constitutes an
implied threat, and therefore violates participation guidelines for ICANN
mailing lists.
>>> 
>>> If another such infraction occurs you will be barred from this list.
>>> 
>>> Beau Brendler
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc>
>>>> Sent: Apr 1, 2011 12:05 AM
>>>> To: Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
>>>> Cc: "John R. Levine" <johnl at iecc.com>, NA Discuss
<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Edits and comments to NARALO/ALAC
position	statement on GAC scorecard
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that this is somewhat unkind, but it is rather on point to the
discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> I've done pretty well ignoring all the baiting up until now though,
don't you think?  You have no idea of the steely discipline I have imposed
on myself. 
>>>> 
>>>> Antony
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 March 2011 23:25, Antony Van Couvering <avc at avc.vc> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.S. Is that jl.ly in your signature one of those "vanity" domain
names you're always going on about?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So much for the claim of good faith attempt to engage without personal
attack.
>>>>> Welcome to my troll filter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Evan
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
> 


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