[NA-Discuss] FW: Regional Advice for Papergate

[Thompson, Darlene]

Hi Nick,

Thank you so much for your prompt reply to this.

Your previous e-mail seems to imply that you already know that this
group DOES have members ("the accreditation process for ALSes which is
currently in force would not allow an individual to be accredited as an
ALS") but I do not see any proof of this in the DD.  Please elaborate.

I would echo Alan's sentiments below and want to have
"proof/demonstration of on-going activities and membership."  If you
(staff) could clarify this matter, I think it might set our minds at
ease.

Thank you so much for your help!

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
E-mail:  dthompson at gov.nu.ca
 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] FW: Regional Advice for Papergate

There is no impediment to requesting further information; you can do it
directly, the ALAC can, or either may request the staff to do it (but
you'd need to tell us what you want us to ask of course).


On 07/04/2009 03:58, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:

As Darlene said, incorporating but not having any viable organization
is not particularly good either. I happen to be associated with a
functioning, productive not-for-profit (far from the ICANN world) and
I would hope that our not having incorporated (initial and ongoing
cost just to high to justify) would not be held against us.

Proof/demonstration of ongoing activities and membership is the key.

I cannot remember whether there is a step in the process that allows
us to ask for more information (and that stops the clock from ticking).

Alan

At 06/04/2009 01:59 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>Darlene wrote:
>
> > 1.    Papergate seems to be registered as a business but has not yet
> > registered as a corporation so we have no proof of its actual
existence;
> >
>At least in my jurisdiction, an unincorporated registration is little
>more than a legal alias. So we are indeed likely dealing with an
>individual and not (yet) a bonafide group.
>
> > I guess my major concern is fairness and transparency.  When Danny
> > Younger applied to become an ALS as an individual, he was turned
down.
> > How is this application any different?  Should we be:
> >
> >
> > 1.    Accepting this application as an individual and accepting
> it on this basis;
> > 2.    Accepting this application as an ALS; or
> > 3.    Rejecting this application.
> >
>
>Choice (1) really isn't applicable, because no approval is required for
>someone to join as an individual.
>
>My first choice would be to suspend or defer approval until Papergate
is
>incorporated and the appropriate demonstration of ALS eligibility can
be
>validated. If deferral is not an option then IMO this application ought
>to be rejected, and resubmitted when Papergate is incorporated.
>
>- Evan
>
>
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