[NA-Discuss] FW: Regional Advice for Papergate

Nick Ashton-Hart Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org
Tue Apr 7 09:16:39 EDT 2009


There is no impediment to requesting further information; you can do it directly, the ALAC can, or either may request the staff to do it (but you'd need to tell us what you want us to ask of course).


On 07/04/2009 03:58, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:

As Darlene said, incorporating but not having any viable organization
is not particularly good either. I happen to be associated with a
functioning, productive not-for-profit (far from the ICANN world) and
I would hope that our not having incorporated (initial and ongoing
cost just to high to justify) would not be held against us.

Proof/demonstration of ongoing activities and membership is the key.

I cannot remember whether there is a step in the process that allows
us to ask for more information (and that stops the clock from ticking).

Alan

At 06/04/2009 01:59 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>Darlene wrote:
>
> > 1.    Papergate seems to be registered as a business but has not yet
> > registered as a corporation so we have no proof of its actual existence;
> >
>At least in my jurisdiction, an unincorporated registration is little
>more than a legal alias. So we are indeed likely dealing with an
>individual and not (yet) a bonafide group.
>
> > I guess my major concern is fairness and transparency.  When Danny
> > Younger applied to become an ALS as an individual, he was turned down.
> > How is this application any different?  Should we be:
> >
> >
> > 1.    Accepting this application as an individual and accepting
> it on this basis;
> > 2.    Accepting this application as an ALS; or
> > 3.    Rejecting this application.
> >
>
>Choice (1) really isn't applicable, because no approval is required for
>someone to join as an individual.
>
>My first choice would be to suspend or defer approval until Papergate is
>incorporated and the appropriate demonstration of ALS eligibility can be
>validated. If deferral is not an option then IMO this application ought
>to be rejected, and resubmitted when Papergate is incorporated.
>
>- Evan
>
>
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