[NA-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness

Danny Younger dannyyounger at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 10 11:41:36 EDT 2008


Beau,

If memory serves, all the substantive comments came exclusively from North American participants.  So why not just send it through as a NARALO statement to Tim Cole?  The importance is in the message communicated, not in whoever pretends to take credit for the Statement.

Take a lesson from the Internet itself -- If the ALAC can't be trusted to be responsible about getting its work done on time, then feel free to route around the obstacle -- 

regards,
Danny


--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Brendler, Beau <Brenbe at consumer.org> wrote:

> From: Brendler, Beau <Brenbe at consumer.org>
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness
> To: "ALAC Internal List" <alac-internal at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "'NA Discuss'" <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:25 AM
> Related to this topic:
> 
> We (the ALAC) needs to act on and ratify the comments on
> the RAA. Those were supposed to be finalized and to Tim Cole
> by the end of August. We can't wait now until our
> monthly ALAC call in October. Maybe this can be a test case
> where we try to figure out how to move ahead on something.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alac-internal-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:alac-internal-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On
> Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:56 AM
> To: ALAC Internal List
> Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on
> Stakeholder Group Openness
> 
> Generally agree, but I put this note on the internal list
> to spark some thinking and then have the discussion in a
> venue where all folks have a reasonable chance of
> participating in it (which to date is not one of our
> mailings lists).
> 
> Alan
> 
> At 10/09/2008 10:28 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> >Alan Greenberg wrote:
> > > I am putting this post in the closed internal
> list.
> > >
> > > I request time in Cairo to have a face-to-face
> discussion on the
> > > types of issues that the ALAC can decide without
> world-wide
> > > consultation, and those IF ANY that, as a duly
> selected body, it has
> > > the authority to do alone, or in consultation
> with RALO leaders.
> >
> >If there is some sense of the kinds of issues that are
> to arise, it is
> >possible for us (RALO chairs and secretariats) to at
> least get a sense
> >of the overall direction that the ALSs would
> collectively prefer on
> >such issues. Armed with such a general "mood"
> but not direction on
> >specific motions, I believe it is possible for each
> RALO's
> >representatives (their elected ALAC reps plus the
> chairs and
> >secretariats) to be able to act on issues and motions
> raised in meetings.
> >
> >It is reasonable that issues of major substance, as
> well as those not
> >identified (even generally) in advance be sent back for
> ALS response.
> >However, I believe that a significant amount of
> business can be done if
> >the RALOs have been previously surveyed in advance and
> their views are
> >reflected in the actions of their four reps at the
> meetings.
> >
> >If the purpose of this process is to create a draft
> "point of reference"
> >that is then sent back for ALS review, that is even
> better. But the
> >timing of some issues may not allow that luxury.
> >
> >- Evan
> >
> >
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