[NA-Discuss] 2008 ICANN Nominating Committee Announces Selections

[Jean Armour Polly]

In case people aren't aware-- eligibility is at
http://nomcom.icann.org/invitation-2008.html#E

At 3:29 PM -0400 9/7/08, Alan Greenberg recently said:
>By "rules", I meant the ICANN By-Laws (in this case Article
>XI,Section 2.4.b.ii) which dictate that the five NomCom appointees
>must include a citizen of a country in each ICANN region.
>
>The ALAC annually can (and I think does) give the NomCom criteria
>which it would like to see met. I don't think that there is anything
>preventing a particular region from including region specific
>criteria if this is a year that their slot is being filled. And the
>NomCom of course includes a delegate from each region who can speak
>up inside the NomCom. The NomCom also consults publicly and
>presumably privately on what is needed and wanted regarding any
>particular appointment.
>
>To my knowledge, NomComs are not bound by anything other than the
>By-Laws and are free to accept of ignore any particular bit of advice
>or preference (which are no doubt conflicting at times). Choices are
>of course ultimately subjective.
>
>In regard to the specific issue at play here, I do not recall
>previously hearing a discussion a NomCom appointee had to reside in
>the region that he is associated with by citizenship, but perhaps it
>was done before my time or out of my earshot. Perhaps to some, it was
>so obvious that it did not need discussion.
>
>Alan
>
>
>
>At 07/09/2008 02:44 PM, Dharma Dailey wrote:
>>Are there posted criteria for these positions that can be used as a
>>guideline so that there isn't as much second guessing after the fact?
>>
>>It's helpful when making decisions such as these to have a prioritized
>>list of bullet pointed criteria to use as a guide for discussing
>>candidates.   IMO, rules should be saved for non-starters.   In an all
>>volunteer context, I find it's useful to have an idea of the
>>characteristics of an ideal candidate, but also have the flexibility
>>to make rational compromises based on the fact that no two volunteers
>  >are likely to excel at everything you might like them to do.
>  >
>  >Guidelines help decision makers wade the facts in a systematic way
>  >because guidelines separate making decisions of organizational
>>priority from  making decisions of who is best at taking on
>>fulfillment of specific tasks.   In the real world, these two tasks
>>are often conflated making both decision making processes harder, more
>>personal, less rational.
>>
>>Dharma Dailey
>>
>>
>>On Sep 7, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is indeed a problem (and I am not making a case for or
>>>against), then we should be talking about changing the rules that are
>>>based on citizenship. In this particular case , would have preferred
>>>if the dialogue was carried out on the world-wide list so that those
>>>people involved could also have a say.
>>>
>>>Alan
>>>
>>>At 07/09/2008 11:18 AM, you wrote:
>>>>Robert,
>>>>
>>>>While it's wonderful that you know and like both candidates, we are
>>>>trying to discuss a very real issue -- residency requirements.  Out
>>>>of the 27 candidates that hailed from Europe the NomCom chose a
>>>>candidate to represent Europe that works and resides in Japan.  I
>>>>consider that to be a poor decision, and whether you like Adam or
>>>>not has no bearing on whether the process needs to be reformed.
>>>>
>>>>Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Robert Guerra <lists at privaterra.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>From: Robert Guerra <lists at privaterra.info>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] 2008 ICANN Nominating Committee
>>>>Announces Selections
>>>>>To: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 11:03 AM
>>>>>I have a different take on the situation - I have the
>>>>>pleasure of
>>>>>personally knowing both candidates (either from ALAC or
>>>>>WSIS) and know
>>>>>that they will be effective and active representatives for
>>>>>the user
>>>>>constituency @ ALAC.
>>>>>
>>>>>So i'd rather be constructive - congratulations are in
>  >>>>order to  Adam
>>>>>& Allan! As well, thanks to the At-Large reps on the
>>>>>nomcom for the
>>>>>hard work and many hours involved in the process.
>>>>>
>>>>>regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Robert
>>>>>
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