[NA-Discuss] Proposed NARALO Statement - V2
Louis Houle
louis.houle at oricom.ca
Mon May 5 13:44:39 EDT 2008
Danny,
It's a good approach. I support it.
Louis Houle
ISOC Québec
P.S. Sorry for that late comment. I was out in a «no Internet land»!
Danny Younger a écrit :
> Beau,
> below are the comments that I just sent through to the
> BGC:
>
> When I think about restructuring the GNSO I begin by
> asking myself, "What broad communities should
> rightfully have a seat at this table"?
>
> As I look around I see four distinct communities that
> have a stake in the process:
>
> 1. Community: Providers of Registration and
> Connectivity Services
> a. Registries
> b. Registrars
> c. Resellers, Hosting Companies/ISPs
>
> 2. Community: Business
> a. Big Business & their Intellectual Property
> Attorneys
> b. Small Business & domainers
>
> 3. Community: Law Enforcement & Security Interests
>
> 4. Community: Public Interest
> a. Consumer Groups
> b. Civil Society Advocates
> i. Privacy
> ii. Freedom of Speech, etc.
> c. Registrant Rights Advocates
>
> For the sake of simplicity, fairness and to minimize
> council size to create a more effective body, I would
> recommend 3 Council seats for each broad community.
>
> Clearly, some constituent groups already exist as
> recognized entities while others would need to be
> formed. The ICANN Board has the authority to create
> new constituencies on its own motion. It should do
> so.
>
> regards,
> Danny
>
> --- "Brendler, Beau" <Brenbe at consumer.org> wrote:
>
>
>> I don't support this approach.
>>
>> I think we should ask for a deadline extension and
>> try to get a new draft document that speaks
>> specifically to our concerns. Based on my experience
>> with the ALAC review process, the ICANN is looking
>> for suggestions on the way things ought to be. I
>> think the reaction to this type of statement will be
>> very negative and won't get us what we really want,
>> or, to be frank, what I really want, which is
>> maximum user representation in all the ICANN power
>> centers in equal proportion to registrars and others
>> who have nothing more than financial stakes in how
>> ICANN operates. Personally, I think this document
>> should specifically suggest what it is we want,
>> rather than be a declaration of our disassociation
>> from the process. This will just reassure everyone
>> that the at-large can't agree on anything and get
>> its act together (of all the regions, we are the
>> only ones to object to this document and the
>> process, which is not something I necessarily agree
>> with, but is a political reality).
>>
>> Some of the other statements I have seen so far in
>> this chain, which in a way I regret I sort of
>> started, have made some suggestions in this vein.
>> May I suggest NA RALO take a different approach, put
>> together some of that specific feedback on the way
>> we think things ought to work, ask for a deadline
>> extension, and submit that.
>>
>> Also, though Alan Greenberg is nomcom appointed and
>> not elected, he's a good guy who gives a heck of a
>> lot of his time and is, in my opinion, taking an
>> unfair hit.
>>
>> Beau
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on
>> behalf of Thompson, Darlene
>> Sent: Thu 4/24/2008 9:40 AM
>> To: Gareth Shearman; Evan Leibovitch
>> Cc: NA Discuss
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Proposed NARALO Statement
>> - V2
>>
>> I, too, support this version. Nice job Danny &
>> Evan!
>>
>> Darlene A. Thompson
>> Community Access Program Administrator
>> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
>> Phone: (867) 975-5631
>> Fax: (867) 975-5610
>> E-mail: dthompson at gov.nu.ca
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org]
>> On Behalf Of Gareth
>> Shearman
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:57 PM
>> To: Evan Leibovitch
>> Cc: NA Discuss
>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Proposed NARALO Statement
>> - V2
>>
>> I support this version.
>>
>> Gareth
>>
>> On 23-Apr-08, at 8:06 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Here are my contributions to the statement. I
>>>
>> think this time, I may
>>
>>> have been even angrier than Danny ;-)
>>> [ Note: I will likely not have access to email for
>>>
>> the next 24-48
>>
>>> hours
>>> -- please work on this in my absense. ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Proposed NARALO Statement -- v.2
>>>
>>> The North American Regional At-Large Organization
>>> (NARALO) disassociates itself from the document
>>> submitted to the ICANN Board Governance Committee
>>> entitled "Joint users proposal GNSO structural
>>> change".
>>>
>>> Neither NARALO nor any of its At-Large Structure
>>> (ALS) members were consulted, in the development
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> a document supposedly designed to define At-Large
>>> involvement in the GNSO. We were neither
>>> participants in the formulation of this document
>>>
>> nor
>>
>>> afforded the opportunity to comment upon its
>>>
>> interim
>>
>>> drafts.
>>>
>>> The document, in its final form, does not address
>>>
>> many
>>
>>> issues previously identified by At-Large. We see
>>> major problems with a recommendation that fails to
>>> address the specific issues faced by the broad
>>>
>> community of
>>
>>> registrants, or to acknowledge the vital role of
>>> non-registrant user stakeholders.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, we are astounded that the ALAC was
>>> explicitly exempted from direct participation in
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> new GNSO formulation, despite the document's
>>>
>> preamble
>>
>>> which states that "ALAC is critical to ICANN's
>>>
>> external
>>
>>> perception". After many years of slow and painful
>>> development, the ALAC has finally taken first baby
>>>
>> steps
>>
>>> towards the fulfilment of its mandate to offer a
>>>
>> focus
>>
>>> and catalyst for At-Large communications and
>>>
>> policy
>>
>>> development. To explicitly exclude it from a role
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> At-Large advocacy within the GNSO at this time is
>>> beyond reason.
>>>
>>> The process used to create this document was
>>>
>> highly
>>
>>> objectionable. Significant changes in wording that
>>> negatively impacted the role of At-Large were made
>>> in last-minute revisions, which were not
>>>
>> communicated
>>
>>> at all -- by ALAC, GNSO or Staff -- to ALSs or
>>>
>> RALOs.
>>
>>> It was only through the personal diligence of our
>>> own members that we were made aware of these
>>>
>> changes
>>
>>> before the end of the comment period.
>>>
>>> Therefore it is the view of NARALO that it would
>>>
>> be
>>
>>> inappropriate for us to signal any support for the
>>> specific formulations contained in this document.
>>>
>> It
>>
>>> does NOT reflect the interests of NARALO or its
>>> member ALSs.
>>>
>>> We ask the Board Governace Committee to respect
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> principle of representation set out in ICANN's MOU
>>> that called for technical management structures to
>>> reflect the global and functional diversity of
>>> Internet users and their needs
>>>
>>>
>>>
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