[NA-Discuss] [At-Large] New CIRA Whois Policy - fear mongering?

[Jeffrey A. Williams]

Bill and all,

  I am not going to comment on your case in particular,
but I can contest and would be more than willing to sware
under oath myself that no matter how many times anyone
reports spaming, phishing, or other fraudulent uses of 
Whois acquired data, if those companies or organizations
are of a significant stature, they are rarely pursued by
law enforcment.  One has to wonder why.  I myself have
reported some 99 such incidents in less than a year now,
and not one as far as I know or can determine are being
pursued by law enforcment. I find such extrodinary if not
entirely disreputable of law enforcment, sad to say... 

  Further still it seems odd that CIRA and ICANN have not
taken the lead here in addressing these inadaquacies and
inconsistancies as well.  

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Silverstein <icann-list at sorehands.com>
>Sent: May 4, 2008 10:16 AM
>To: alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>Subject: [At-Large] New CIRA Whois Policy - fear mongering?
>
>> There's simply no basis for your fear mongering.
>
>There is no fear mongering.  I am litigating against e360Insight and
>included Moniker as  Defendant for providing anonymous whois service to
>spammers. Moniker has not identified or terminated the spammers, either
>e360 or on the original registrant of domain names that they claim do not
>belong to e360)
>
>Of course, I provided Moniker with copies of the spam (under oath) which
>Moniker admits that some of that spam are using BagainDepot's (sister
>company/co-defendant) anonymously registered domain names.
>
>I am not law enforcement. Just one of the people who tired of  spammers
>using his servers as a using his inbox as a garbage can. Even is law
>enforcement was provided this information, there still need to be
>additional steps taken which will slow down the identification process. Do
>you think the FTC will start investigating a spammer that only sent 100
>spams? Anonymous domain name  registrations also prevent one from
>identifying how many are tied to a single spammer.
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