[NA-Discuss] [Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] FW: Call for Comments on GNSO Domain Tasting Motion ... ACTION Required for RALO's and ALS input]

Sat May 3 18:40:19 EDT 2008

Dominik and all,

  Personally, I agree that there is no real NEED for the
AGP.  But the majority of the Registrars and registries
perfer it.  Our members solution, was a way in which
addressing Domain Name Tasting that is effective and
will eliminate Domain Name Tasting while at the same time
keeping the AGP.  However as you rightly point out, I as well
as most of our members are very doubtful that either the
registrars or ICANN can effectively do the necessary oversight
our solution requires, but does offer them an oppertunity
to demonstrate their interest in keeping it for whatever
reasons they believe the AGP is useful.

  So if indeed ICANN is to fulfil it's mission, than it
must take responsibility for doing so in a active and
tangable way or it has and is still failing to do so.
Remember ICANN introduced the Accreditation program to
give confidance to the marketplace of Domain Name
registration as safe and secure.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp at dsoft.sk>
>Sent: May 3, 2008 8:01 AM
>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] [Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] FW: Call for Comments on GNSO Domain Tasting Motion ... ACTION Required for RALO's and ALS input]
>
>Jeff,
>
>The thing is that AGP as a concept has no and never has had any
>legitimate reason for existence whatsoever. It is a flawed concept from
>the ground up allowing for comfortable life of registrars and perhaps
>with speculative intentions from the very beginning. Any prospective
>ICANN oversight related to it thus makes no sense either. Other
>businesses must live without such a prerogative and they live well.
>
>I am still impressed by your persisting, though sometimes implicit,
>trust towards ICANN oversight. ICANN is not even able to oversee much
>more developed policies such as domain renewals (RegisterFly) or
>transfers (complaints being reported and ignored on daily basis), which
>is an evident and easily provable breach of existing contracts. How
>could you then expect ICANN to oversee such a jungle like AGP is with
>all the possible unexpected or yet unknown side effects it might bring?
>
>By the way, Evan Leibovitch is one of the very few guys at ALAC who is
>doing something meaningful and who is able to loudly and firmly defend
>his position. NARALO was/is the only RALO explicitly supporting the AGP
>elimination.
>
>Have a nice weekend
>
>Dominik
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeffrey A. Williams [mailto:jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com] 
>Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:56 AM
>To: John Levine; Evan Leibovitch; dt-motion-21may08 at icann.org;
>aheineman at ntia.doc.gov
>Cc: NA Discuss; Dominik Filipp
>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] FW: Call for Comments on
>GNSO Domain Tasting Motion ... ACTION Required for RALO's and ALS input]
>
>John, Evan, and all,
>
>  "Everyone", which in the NARALO is a paltry few already spoke before
>the mis-communicated ALAC motion was submitted.
>So I can only guess that someone is not reading their Email fully.  The
>consensus, although unmeasured, was actually that the AGP needed to go
>and/or be eliminated. 
>
>  INEGroup's members had determined a more reasoned and practical
>solution that would allow for the AGP to remain, but eliminate Domain
>Name Tasting, not limit it.  That solution is short, would require
>registrars to modify their registration software to only allow for 10
>registrations/month per registrant, and if any were requested to be
>dropped during the AGP, those registrants would be banned from
>registering any domains for a set period of time or only allowed to
>register one Domain name per month for a period no less than one month
>and no more than two years.  If that same registrant a second time
>registered domain names in any name space and again let any of them drop
>during the AGP he/she/it would be banned for a period of one year from
>registering any domain names.  If that same registrant or registrar a
>third time registered any number of domain names in any name space and
>again let any of them drop or be placed in a "Parking status" would be
>banned permanently from ever registering any Domain names indefinitely
>AND the registrar or registrars involved would have their Accreditation
>revoked for a period of no less than 30 days and possibly indefinitely
>and would release all domain names in those name spaces to the pool for
>re-registration immediately.
>
>  The ICANN staff itself would be responsible for oversight and
>compliance of this policy and report all incidents publicly for the
>publics review and notice.  All or any of the ICANN staff members
>assigned to doing said oversight that failed to do it's duty accordingly
>would be subject to retraining in good customer relations at ICANN's and
>the registrars associated expense or be summarily and immediately
>dismissed. 
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Levine <johnl at iecc.com>
>>Sent: May 2, 2008 7:47 PM
>>To: Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
>>Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] FW: Call for Comments
>on GNSO Domain Tasting Motion ... ACTION Required for RALO's and ALS
>input]
>>
>>> What says everyone? Do we make a statement as NARALO, or leave the
>GNSO
>>> doc to go to the board without comment?
>>
>>Assuming the members of the NARALO still feel that the AGP would go, I 
>>think we owe the GNSO a comment.
>>
>>Regards,
>>John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
>Dummies",
>>Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com,
>ex-Mayor
>>"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
>>
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