[NA-Discuss] FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7

Thu Mar 6 11:52:21 EST 2008

Hi all,

Please see Seth's support for Danny's letter to ICANN below.

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
dthompson at gov.nu.ca

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From: Seth M. Reiss [mailto:seth.reiss at lex-ip.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:24 AM
To: Thompson, Darlene
Subject: FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7

Darlene

Assuming my comment doesn't make it on the list because my apparent
computer
illiteracy when it comes to list serves, could you post if for me?

Mahalo

Seth

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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:22 AM
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Good Danny.  Count me in as well.

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   3. Re:  Letter to the ICANN Board (John Levine)
   4. Re:  Letter to the ICANN Board (Evan Leibovitch)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:37:03 -0500
From: Jean Armour Polly <mom at netmom.com>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board
To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>
Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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I think it is an excellent letter; I also support it.
-- 
Jean Armour Polly
http://www.netmom.com/

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:03:15 -0500
From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson at GOV.NU.CA>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board
To: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>,	"NA Discuss"
	<na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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I think that this letter is an excellent way for the NARALO to be
pro-active on an issue rather than merely re-active.

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
dthompson at gov.nu.ca

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[mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny
Younger
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:22 PM
To: NA Discuss
Subject: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board

Dear members of the NARALO:

I have drafted a letter to the Board for discussion at
our upcoming teleconference.  I would appreciate any
initial feedback to refine this letter as required.

Dear ICANN board directors:

While we are aware that you have been monitoring the
public outrage in response to registrar activities
that have been variously described as "front-running"
and/or "domain reservation" or "cart-hold" or
"cart-reserve" activities, we are of the view that the
obligation to safeguard the operational stability of
Registrar Services now requires the immediate
temporary establishment of a consensus policy
curtailing such practices to be taken in accordance
with the board's authority under the provisions set
out in section 4.3.4 of the Registrar Accreditation
Agreement, that states:

"A specification or policy established by the ICANN
Board of Directors on a temporary basis, without a
prior recommendation by the council of an ICANN
Supporting Organization, shall also be considered to
be a Consensus Policy if adopted by the ICANN Board of
Directors by a vote of at least two-thirds of its
members, so long as the Board reasonably determines
that immediate temporary establishment of a
specification or policy on the subject is necessary to
maintain the operational stability of Registrar
Services, Registry Services, the DNS, or the Internet,
and that the proposed specification or policy is as
narrowly tailored as feasible to achieve those
objectives."

Please be advised that we have reached this conclusion
based in part upon the following considerations:

1.  The use of "cart-hold" or "cart-reserve" systems
has been actively under discussion within the
registrars constituency since early October 2007 when
three different registrars first advanced the concept
within the context of a straw poll on the impact to
registrants were the AGP to be eliminated
in its entirety (footnote 1) 

-- see
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05123.html
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05130.html
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-
lists/archives/registrars/msg05131.html
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05380.html
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05626.html

2. The use of this domain name reservation practice
next came to be adopted by a large-volume registrar
(Network Solutions) on or about 8 January 2008, and
the practice was immediately condemned by the
community at large (with extensive coverage in the
Tech media, the general press, in blogs world wide, on
domain name forums, and on community discussion
lists).

3. The actions of Network Solutions has now spawned a
similar project on the part of another large-volume
registrar (register.com), and we have no reason to
believe that other large-volume registrars will
refrain from rapidly setting up comparable efforts.

(footnote -- see
http://help.register.com/cgi-bin/register_help.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.p
hp?p_faqid=2796&p_created=1185549188&p_sid=*Nq5PxZi&p_accessibility=0&p_
lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD01NDImcF
9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2Vhcm
NoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1
)

While we recognize that we are unable to point to an
ICANN-approved definition of "operational stability of
Registrar Services" (as no such definition exists
within either current ICANN contracts or supporting
materials), we take guidance from the ICANN Policy
Document ICP-3 which posits that activities that do
not interfere with the operation of the DNS are,
generally speaking, those that operate within
community-established norms.

Such norms tend to respect a set of long-established
principles such as the principle of least
astonishment.  When registrants currently search for a
domain name at these registrars using normative search
practices, they are clearly astonished by that which
results from their efforts:  the inability to readily
register the domain name of their choice with a more
competitive registrar and/or the domain name that they
have selected appearing in the WHOIS with the name of
the registrar as the registrant of record  

(footnote -- see
http://help.register.com/cgi-bin/register_help.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.p
hp?p_faqid=2796&p_created=1185549188&p_sid=*Nq5PxZi&p_accessibility=0&p_
lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD01NDImcF
9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2Vhcm
NoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1
).

The community's trust in ICANN's ability to manage the
Domain Name System is at stake.  It is inappropriate
for such registrar activities to proceed unabated in a
policy vaccuum.  Accordingly we call upon the ICANN
board to establish a temporary narrowly-tailored
policy as a stopgap until such time as the relevant
policy-recommending ICANN Supporting Organizations can
provide a comprehensive consensus policy solution.

________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:34:15 -0500 (EST)
From: John Levine <johnl at iecc.com>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board
To: Jean Armour Polly <mom at netmom.com>
Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0803051033460.63282 at simone.iecc.com>
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> I think it is an excellent letter; I also support it.

I agree with everything in it, but I do think that a question about RAA 
enforcement or the egregiously lack thereof would be useful.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com,
ex-Mayor
"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:02:17 -0500
From: Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board
To: NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Message-ID: <47CEC409.9060309 at telly.org>
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Hello all,

So far I have not heard from anyone speaking against the contents of
this letter.

At next week's meeting we will hold a vote on endorsement of the letter.
It will make our case stronger if the endorsement is unanimous -- so if
you have any concerns or comments, please state them before or at the
conference call.

If the motion for NARALO to endorse the letter passes -- unanimous or
not -- I will forward it to ALAC for further endorsement. It would be
prefereable to have all of ALAC endorse this, but even if not I will
request that our letter be conveyed to the Board by its ALAC
representative.

I am especially appreciative to Danny for his initiation of this action.
As has been already said, our movement on this perhaps suggests that we
(if not all of ALAC, at least the NA region) wants to be proactive on
issues and not simply respond to the reactive agenda that ICANN would
set for us.

- Evan

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