[NA-Discuss] [At-Large] ICANN Board Approves Censorship Policy for DomainNames Based on Morality: 2 Board Members Speak Against It]

Fri Jun 27 20:26:34 EDT 2008

Vittorio and all,

  I must admit that Vittorio has a good point.  The ALAC hasn't
formulated any consensus that can be definitely demonstrated
without objection to anything what so ever.  Neither have any of
the ALS'es to my knowledge.  But this I believe is mostly due to
the poor structure of the ALAC and the ALS'es and the lack of
mechanisms that delineate what positions are, or are not, broadly
shared by it's participants.

  Hiring a consulting group did little and may have disserved
the ALAC and the ALS'es in it's weak/meager attempt to
determine "Consensus".  This amongst other reasons is why
I believe that proposals however formal or otherwise should
be voted upon by each and every participant that wishes to do
so, so that there is no doubt where the members/participants
actually do stand on any issue it has or may be considering.

Vittorio Bertola wrote:

> Evan Leibovitch ha scritto:
> > Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> >> 1) How comes that a statement from a constituency which is supposed to
> >> represent the views of the entire world is only representing one point
> >> of view, but not the other?
> >>
> > Because the global consensus was overwhelmingly with one side.
> >
> > (Why are you incapable of grasping that every region of the world might
> > agree that the morality/order sections of the resolution are a bad idea?)
>
> Excuse me?
> Can you please point me to the places where the various RALOs discussed
> the issue and come to consensus to recommend against public order
> considerations?
> At least for Europe, I haven't seen any kind of discussion to this regard.
>
> > In fact, it is notable that, despite the considerable diversity within
> > At-Large, it was capable of gaining consensus on this position. Perhaps
> > that should indicate to you that condemnation for these clauses is
> > widespread; this is absolutely not a view from just one region.
> >
> >> 2) How comes that the ALAC only stated the negative aspects of this
> >> decision, but did not bother to mention the positive sides and the
> >> satisfaction of many At Large participants?
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps you did not take the time to listen to Wendy's actual comments;
> > the very first thing she said was "the at-large, as registrants and as
> > users of domain names, supports the introduction of new gTLDs".
> >
> > But her comments indicated that the good parts -- which we all want --
> > are seriously poisoned by the bad. Any long-term view of the situation
> > must acknowledge that the short-term benefit of new gTLDs will be
> > seriously impeded by the morality and order sections.
>
> This is your opinion.
> My opinion is that the sections on morality and public order will
> actually make the introduction of new gTLDs viable and stable.
> I am sure that my opinion is shared by several other ALSes.
> Why wasn't this opinion reflected in the ALAC statement? I'm not saying
> that the ALAC must adopt my opinion, but certainly, by stating that the
> At Large supports a position which is far from being consensual, it is
> stating the fake.
>
> >> 3) How were the community and the ALSes consulted on that statement?
> >>
> > NCUC expressed this position emphatically yet was ignored in the GNSO
> > conclusion.
> >
> > Of course, as is overwhelmingly the case, ALAC was put in a responsive
> > position and did not have enough time to do a complete canvass of ALSs.
> > So it was the ALAC -- a mainly-elected global group intended to express
> > the views of the grassroots -- which did what it could, together with
> > the elected RALO chairs and secretariats who were able to confirm the
> > community agreements with the ALAC position.
>
> These recommendations have been out for one year or so, and there was no
> time to ask for ALS / public comment on an ALAC position??
> I think that the ALAC should better come up with a better excuse...
> Ciao,
> --
> vb.                   Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu   <--------
> -------->  finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/  <--------
>
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