[NA-Discuss] ALAC Review Draft is published

[Jeffrey A. Williams]

Alan and all,

  I get the impression that some within the ALAC do not want
NonCom members within the ALAC.  Why not if so?  Isn't
the ALAC an open and transparent organization?

Alan Greenberg wrote:

> At 18/06/2008 11:01 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> >Alan Greenberg wrote:
> >>
> >>Also, ALAC currently names almost 1/3 of the NomCom. If these
> >>people are helping to appoint such poor contributors to the
> >>At-Large cause, then we are either naming people who don't espouse
> >>our views, or who are particularly poor in persuading their
> >>colleagues regarding what is needed.
> >>
> >I'm having difficulty constructing the point of what that sentence
> >is trying to say, especially who is referred to as "we".
> >
> >If the point is that the elected ALAC reps are failing to convince
> >the appointed ones of their POV, my response would be -- so what?
> >Why should the representatives of the grassroots have to convince
> >non-grassroots ALAC members of validity of their cause? How many
> >other interest groups have such "devils advocates" inflicted upon
> >them by ICANN? Such defence of ALAC's views will have to happen
> >anyway once they confront those of ICANN's other constituencies, at
> >the level of the NSOs and the Board. But under the current regime,
> >our positions -- as in, the actual initiatives and views of the
> >grassroots -- are compromised and watered down before they even leave ALAC.
> >
> >I prefer to deal with the general question differently. Rather than
> >engage on the merits of appointees, I want to be told what ICANN has
> >against giving full trust within ALAC to democratic vote and
> >accountable delegates. If there are groups that are
> >under-represented, well then that's what outreach is for. We address
> >that problem by empowering the public, not by pretending their
> >interests are represented by unaccountable appointees.
> >
> >- Evan
> Guess I wasn't clear. Here is the sentence again, with definition for
> the nouns and pronouns:
>
> Also, ALAC currently names almost 1/3 of the NomCom. If these people
> {the people the ALAC has put on the NomCom} are helping to appoint
> such poor contributors to the At-Large cause, then we {the ALAC,
> specifically the Interim ALAC, since we really haven't seen the
> end-product of a NomCom with our last set of appointees on it} are
> either naming people {the people we send to the NomCom} who don't
> espouse our views, or who are particularly poor in persuading their
> colleagues {the other 12 voting members of the NomCom} regarding what
> is needed.
>
> Sorry if I am belaboring the point, but I need make this my final
> post on the subject so that I can go complete my laundry and then can
> catch a plane tomorrow.
>
> For the record, I wasn't making a case for NomCom appointees on the
> ALAC, I as just commenting on the curiosity of a system which
> apparently so poorly meets your (and presumably others) expectations
> of ALAC members.
>
> Alan
>
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