[NA-Discuss] ALAC Review -- NARALO position?

Thu Jun 19 13:25:14 EDT 2008

Hi Nick,

No, nobody has "refused" to state how the choice was made but we sure
can't get any thing in writing.  The Canadian group who didn't even get
an interview wrote following to Denise Michel:

"I wonder if you could give me further information on the selection
procedure with respect to this contract including evaluation criteria
and where our proposal ranked against other candidates.

This will help us in the event that we wish to pursue other similar
contracts in the future and will of course give assurance of the probity
and transparency of the overall selection process."

This e-mail was sent in February and has not, to date, been answered.
So, no, there is no direct refusal but nothing has moved on the issue,
either.  The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
E-mail:  dthompson at gov.nu.ca

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[mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick
Ashton-Hart
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:43 AM
To: Thompson, Darlene; Dominik Filipp; NA Discuss
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] ALAC Review -- NARALO position?

With respect to the points about how the reviewers were chosen, I can
once again reiterate that we will ensure that any members of the
community who wish to know more about this are introduced to the members
of the ALAC Review Committee, chaired by Tricia Drakes, who reviewed
those proposals received to the original RFP.

I don't believe that anyone has ever refused to state how the choice was
made - certainly I have never heard anything like this - though I did
say that we were very busy preparing for Paris and would ensure that all
questions were answered in Paris.

On 19/06/2008 16:54, "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson at GOV.NU.CA> wrote:

Dominik,

I cannot say for sure that "no other reviewers except Westlake
Consulting were considered."  I just know of one very specific case of a
Canadian group with true world-wide scope that has all kinds of research
background and a long background in the lists with ICANN that weren't
even asked for an interview.  It makes me wonder how many interviews did
they have?  How did they select Westlake?  I've asked this on-list and
was told by staff that they did't have time to deal with this right now
but would put me in touch with the appropriate people in Paris.  That
REALLY bothers me that they will not state to the public how this was
done.  WONDERFUL transparency, eh?

Evan and I cannot seem to find any of the NARALO's views in there.  I
will be reading the full report myself at lunch time today to confirm
this.

But, yes, I agree with you.  Totally scornful.

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
E-mail:  dthompson at gov.nu.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Dominik Filipp [mailto:dominik.filipp at dsoft.sk]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:46 AM
To: Thompson, Darlene; NA Discuss
Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] ALAC Review -- NARALO position?

Darlene,

Did this really happen? No other reviewers except Westlake Consulting
were considered? And that the At-Large views were not mentioned in the
draft report?

If this is true then a pretty scornful and derisive act from BoD towards
At-Large community. I think At-Large should react strongly and
adequately.

Dominik

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[mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
Thompson, Darlene
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] ALAC Review -- NARALO position?

Well, I *definitely* think that we need to create a position paper
delineating the various points about this report.  I think that we
should take it right from the bottom up of why other qualified reviewers
weren't even considered and why our views weren't even referenced in the
report.

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP
P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-5631
Fax:  (867) 975-5610
E-mail:  dthompson at gov.nu.ca

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Leibovitch
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:13 PM
To: NA Discuss
Subject: [NA-Discuss] ALAC Review -- NARALO position?

Hello fellow NARALOites,

I have heard from a number of our RALO members on the issue of the draft

report, but far from everyone and not even a majority.

I believe this issue is important, because if accepted as-is the
proposed changes will diminish the role of At-Large in ICANN goings-on
at a time when this role requires enhancement. All the well-intentioned
policy work we can do will be impeded or "consensus-ed" into the ground,

with no real clout at the Board level.

Those who have spoken on the issue that I have heard from have all been
critical, but this is far from a widespread protest.

I would like to know whether there is interest in having a NARALO
position on the draft report before the Paris meeting. Having this would

help guide your representatives there (myself, Darlene, Beau and Robert)

on the inevitable discussions on the issue that will take place. Perhaps

we may even be able to prod the global ALAC into action of its own.

I have no problem writing a initial position to post for endorsement --
but it would reflect my own deep negative reaction which has already
been described on this list. My time is very limited, however, and I
would prefer not to start this if no interest exists in creating a
regional position. If interest does exist, I can draft a brief statement

(preferably working with others who would like to help) and see if, with

any suggested modifications, it can be accepted by NARALO through
consensus by Sunday morning.

Is this reasonable? Is a statement desirable? I find it very unnerving
that there has been ZERO reaction on the global ALAC list except for
Izumi's brief comment. If ALAC is not interested in staking out a
membership-based position then I think NARALO needs to step up.

What does everyone else think? Feel free to reply privately, if that is
appropriate for you, and I can incorporate your comments anonymously.
Even if there is no consensus on a region-wide point of view, all input
is helpful.

- Evan

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