[NA-Discuss] Summary Minutes NARALO Teleconference 09 June

Danny Younger dannyyounger at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 12 16:48:43 EDT 2008


Nick,

Allow me to re-phrase the question.

Having reviewed the minutes of the AFRALO 7 May session, I see that:

"The Staff noted that the travel budget is currently under review and that there is a strong likelihood that At-Large’s travel budget will be reduced to match the travel budgets of the other ICANN constituencies."

Under the proposed ICANN Travel Support draft, other individual constituencies (such as the GNSO, ASO, or ccNSO) will be getting an allocation equal to Half of Council Size + 1 for Chair (with the highest per constituency dollar total set at $184,800).

Is it being proposed by Staff that a similar formula be used for At-Large travel?  

Setting aside the issue of Summit funding, what budget totals have been proposed for the At-Large by the ICANN Staff?  When can we see a breakdown of the proposed At-Large budget?

Related questions:

The ICANN Accountability & Transparency Frameworks document indicates

Financial Accounts
• Within 120 days of the end of the fiscal year, the Audit Committee presents to the Board a final audited set of accounts for the year, along with an audit report that examines the standard of compliance with accounting standards.
• The final accounts are posted on the ICANN website for the information of the ICANN community.

Within 120 days of the end of the fiscal year would have been around March 1, yet I haven't seen the final audited set of accounts for the year posted on the ICANN website.  Neither have I seen IRS Form 990 posted for many many years.  

I direct your attention to this section of the IRS Letter Granting Tax Exemption to ICANN:

"You are required to make your form 990 available for public inspection for three years after the later of the due date of your return or the date the return is filed. You are also required to make available for public inspection your exemption application, any supporting documents, and this exemption letter. Copies of these documents must be provided to any individual upon written or in person request without charge other than reasonable fees for copying and postage. You may fulfill this requirement by placing these documents on the Internet. Penalties may be imposed for failure to comply with these requirements."

http://www.icann.org/financials/tax/us/irs-letter-grant-28aug00.htm

Looking forward to any elucidations.

regards,
Danny


--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Nick Ashton-Hart <Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org> wrote:

> From: Nick Ashton-Hart <Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Summary Minutes NARALO Teleconference 09 June
> To: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>, "At-Large Staff" <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, "NA Discuss" <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:47 PM
> Dear Danny:
> 
> I understand that there are pretty much always
> modifications to the budget before it is passed based upon
> consultations with the community. Certainly because of the
> Summit question the At-Large budget is very much an open
> question.
> 
> 
> On 11/06/2008 14:45, "Danny Younger"
> <dannyyounger at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Nick,
> 
> If the Board in Paris approves the overall budget, what
> will be the At-Large departmental budget for the fiscal
> year?
> 
> regards,
> Danny
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Nick Ashton-Hart
> <Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Nick Ashton-Hart
> <Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Summary Minutes NARALO
> Teleconference 09 June
> > To: "At-Large Staff"
> <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, "NA Discuss"
> <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:18 AM
> > I'm sorry I couldn't join you all - I'm
> swamped
> > in pre-Paris work, and of course you now have Frederic
> as a
> > dedicated RALO resource!
> >
> > One thing I should mention with respect to the minutes
> -
> > apologies if this is well-understood.
> >
> > As I previously mentioned, I did put forward the
> proposal
> > for outreach events in the initial internal budgeting
> > worksheets. However, just because I put something
> forward
> > doesn't mean that it will necessarily make the
> > 'cut'.
> >
> > We will not know what precisely did make it into the
> > At-Large budget until after the Board passes the
> budget in
> > Paris - and in particular until it decides on whether
> or
> > not, based upon community input, the At-Large Summit
> will
> > be supported financially or not.
> >
> > I understand the strong feelings of NARAL related to
> the
> > outreach objectives and these proposals and I have
> relayed
> > these. I wanted to make sure that you knew what the
> status
> > of the proposals was though, so that there
> wouldn't be
> > any misunderstandings...
> >
> >
> > On 10/06/2008 21:07, "At-Large Staff"
> > <staff at atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Please find the summary minutes, action items and
> audio
> > recording of
> > yesterday's NARALO teleconference on the meeting
> page.
> > The minutes are also
> > attached below.
> >
> > https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?09_june_2008
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic
> Teboul
> > ICANN At-Large Staff
> > email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Summary Minutes 09 June 2008
> >
> > 1. Roll Call - As above
> > 2. Review of the Summary Minutes 12 May 2008
> >
> > N/A
> > 3. Review of the Action Items 12 May 2008
> >
> > N/A
> > 4. NARALO -- first 12 month review:
> >
> > What did we do well?
> >
> >     * Glad that this group did more to include
> individuals
> > than others.
> >     * We seem to do more discussion on policy than
> other
> > regions.
> >     * NARALO has had good interventions with ALAC as a
> > whole.
> >     * NARALO has had great energy.
> >     * We made a strong statement to the ALAC.
> >     * Even though we are rather a small group of
> people we
> > have been able to
> > make strong points to ALAC.
> >     * We reacted well to the ALAC abuse of process in
> the
> > joint constituency
> > statement.
> >     * The group has been more active in the past six
> months
> > than ever and as
> > compared to other groups.
> >     * We were able to be proactive on a couple of
> issues.
> >     * NARALO has been most active on the Adobe Connect
> > policy briefings.
> >     * The leadership has been good and our RALO has
> been
> > very active.
> >
> > What did we do badly?
> >
> >     * We didn't make nuisances of ourselves enough
> and
> > we've let ICANN get
> > away with too much.
> >     * We need those short updates on issues and hope
> that
> > we see them soon.
> >     * There is still too much garbage on list but Evan
> has
> > done well in
> > trying to control this.
> >     * RAA revisions. We failed to come together and
> issue
> > an appropriate
> > statement to the JPA. We haven't done anything to
> prep
> > our ALAC reps prior
> > to meetings.
> >     * Those that are empowered in a group usually take
> the
> > time to come up
> > to speed with issues and look for solutions. Those
> that are
> > not elected tend
> > not to participate at a level that would make for
> valuable
> > input. Its very
> > time consuming to do so. Also, without going to the
> > meetings and interacting
> > on a personal level, its difficult to see where people
> are
> > coming from.
> >
> > How can we improve?
> >
> >     * More discussion on policy.
> >     * Its hard to get a handle on all of the various
> > policies in order to
> > provide input.
> >     * More outreach.
> >     * Develop a strong communications mechanism.
> >     * The Staff has done good work with Adobe Connect
> and
> > we should continue
> > to utilize these tools.
> >     * We need to keep a better eye on the calendar.
> >     * Better communications and to somehow get those
> that
> > are not empowered
> > to travel once in a while.
> >     * More outreach, more education, more policy
> > discussions.
> >
> > 5. Outreach -- selection of strategic events
> >
> > We need to identify locations far ahead of time so
> that we
> > can adequately
> > plan and implement them.
> >
> > NTEN - Spring
> > CES - January
> > ICT Summit - Vancouver - February
> > Consumer Groups events in Washington (there are two
> coming
> > up)
> > Annual Meeting of the Intellectual Property Lawyers in
> > October
> >
> > Please bring up other ideas on the mailing list and we
> will
> > add it to the
> > list.
> > 6. July meeting election of one ALAC rep, Chair and
> > Secretariat
> >
> > During the July meeting we will be electing the above.
> This
> > is a proper
> > election so calls for nomination will be done. Evan,
> > Darlene and Beau have
> > agreed to stand in their positions. When should we do
> the
> > elections? There
> > were no preferences so we will put it to the list.
> > 7. Priorities for June ICANN meeting
> >
> > Be careful in what meetings we go to in order for us
> to get
> > the most bang
> > for our buck.
> > There will be an RAA meeting on Monday and Danny will
> prep
> > some materials
> > for us to be prepared for it.
> > 8. Other Matters
> >
> > If you received an e-mail from Frederic Teboul, please
> > respond ASAP. The
> > more input we have, the better everyone can work
> together.
> > We now have good
> > support staff for Nick and now that these exist, we
> need to
> > make better use
> > of it.
> >
> > The Summit proposal is due tomorrow. Maybe we can also
> kick
> > a copy of it to
> > John (?) Nesbitt.
> > 9. Next Meeting
> >
> > July 14, 2008
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nick Ashton-Hart
> > Director for At-Large
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> (ICANN)
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> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nick Ashton-Hart
> Director for At-Large
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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