[NA-Discuss] On ALAC response to BGC WG midpoint etc.: How do you want me to vote?

[Cheryl Langdon-Orr]

Couple of things regarding a few points made in this topics thread...

As far as I know all comments from Wendy, Danny and others made on lists or
wiki's were incprprated with the exception of a part point mae by Sebastien
regarding Strategic planning...

Also there is no power grab by the ExCom => the use of ExCom in the addition
of suggestion that a Board Liaison position be retained *in transition*  was
discused in Cairo which is where it came from and the use of Chair as a
possability* of that role fits with the role of Board liaison  being Chair
of other AC's  we extended it to the ExCom  as a suggestion *IF such a
proposal were ever contemplated by the BGC ALAC Review WG*  to allow wider
choice to ExCom but ALAC  can be inserted instead of ExCom without any issue
at all as far as I'm concerned...

And I totally agree with the ALAC Budget SC being the interface with the
staff on budget proposal  but the original consultants proposed Chair for
this matter the BGC ALAC Review WG did not change it I believe and our draft
was trying again to expand this role to at least ExCom  but the natural
alternate is the Budget & Finance SC if it is reconstituted...

Finally the ExCom is assigned authorship of this interim document UNTIL it
is voted on then it becomes an ALAC Statement with all the front pages and
coversheets that go along with that authority  after the vote has closed...

Finally if NARALO wish, there is at least two options forward here:-  1) is
to propose the ammendments below to the ALAC Working List get agreement (I'm
happy to propose and endores this if Beau puts it forward) and those who
have voted so far will need to revote in a new adjusted poll, with an
extention of time given... or 2) NARALO reps vote however they are advised
to or not and NARALO put forward a short "We disagree with the following in
the ALAC Comments / Statement" note that can act as an ammendment to any
Comment already sent and I will ensure that the BGC ALAC Review WG accept
this to be included in their deliberations on final recommendations,  to do
this I will need to know in the next day or so which you desire so that I
can let Trish et.al. know what is happening before many people take a break
away from thier workplaces etc.,


CLO

2008/12/19 Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>

> Brendler, Beau wrote:
> > I would appreciate the guidance of the NARALO as to how to vote.
> Personally, I'm wavering between 60 percent for and 40 percent against. The
> percent I'm against mostly consists of wording that reads to me like
> something of a transferrence of power from the ALAC to the exec committee
> and the chair.
> >
> Yeah, I sort of had that objection as well ;-). There are two spots
> where the ExCom is mentioneed, once regarding Board liaisions and once
> regarding budget planning. Both are IMO unacceptable overstepping of the
> bounds originally surounding the ExCom. I'm concerned that the ExCom
> assigned itself at the authors of the document -- to be endorsed by ALAC
> - rather than an ALAC document.
>
> And finally, I'm more than a little concerned that I -- who am not on
> ALAC per-se -- had to be the first to point that out on the lists. Is
> most of ALAC OK with this power-grab, or just asleep at the wheel?
>
> My personal preference would be to bring forward an amendment that would:
> 1) Change authorship of the document from the ExCom to ALAC
> 2) Change the Board liaision authority from the Chair-or-ExComm to ALAC
> 3) Change the ALAC liaison with staff on budget implementation from
> Chair-or-ExCom"  to the ALAC Budget Subcommittee
>
> If the amendment does not pass I would vote to reject the document --
> and then have NARALO draft its own statement, echoing most of the other
> comments but noting the danger in the ExComm references.
>
> But that's just me. Frankly, I'd be delighted if you raised a motion to
> disband the ExCom -- less than a month after its creation it members
> have wasted no time to destroy the trust that it was meant for
> emergency, rapid-response use only. Clearly the real solutions to the
> problems the ExCom was created to address lie in fixing ALAC rather than
> institutionalizing a shortcut around it.
>
> The continued existence of the ExComm prolongs -- and arguably enhances
> -- a culture of group inaction and unaccountability. It needs to go IMO.
>
> > I'm also not sure about the language on page 4 referring to ALAC as the
> appropriate organizational channel for the voice and concern of the
> individual Internet user in ICANN processes. I'm opposed to this statement
> both in theory and in practice -- I don't think ALAC is doing that now, and
> I don't think it should be roped off as the most appropriate venue for
> individual users.
> >
> I am personally OK with language designating ALAC as the primary channel
> but not the only one. I have no problem with At-Large being the default
> forum for Internet users who don't self-identify with other
> constituencies. Maybe with enough new blood we can inject some life into
> this thing yet.
>
> - Evan
>
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Cheryl Langdon-Orr
(CLO)