[NA-Discuss] Today's ALAC Meeting

Tue Dec 9 10:56:30 EST 2008

Just a few clarifications interspaced below...

2008/12/10 Danny Younger <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>

> 1.  Two of the North American elected reps were not in attendance (Beau and
> Robert).  Beau sent through his apologies in advance of the meeting.

<CLO> I trust they will still also post any reports or comments thay may
have as that is after all the advantage of using a Wiki.

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> 2.  Having neither seen apologies from Robert nor his monthly SSAC liaison
> report (as far as I know the last one he submitted was in May), the NARALO
> needs to decide on an appropriate course of action.

<CLO>  I did try to meet up with Robert when I spotted him at the IGF
meeting Evan has full details on this as we have been working together on
several matters including increased particpation in the ALAC of the NARALO

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> 3.  The ALAC heard from Pierre Dandjinou and Marilyn Cade of the PSC.

<CLO>  this excelent discussion which should assist the ALS's and RALO's
further their thought and comments on the Vital subject will be copied from
the recordong and be made available for your use in the three languages...
Please take time to listed to this (and in fact the trascript of the meeting
if you are confused by what is stated here between Danny and I)

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> 4.  Staff failed to organize a briefing session on the RAA amendments as
> requested.

<CLO>  Note At-Large Staff have repeatedly tried tp organise it is OTHER
ICANN Staff that has not managed...

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> 5.  No NCUC nor ccTLD liaison report was provided.

<CLO> No Meeting pf the ccNSO had been held since our last meeting. Not sure
on NCUC  Beau can answer this...

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> 6.  No RALO reports were provided.

<CLO> these need to be posted after their Dec meeting(s)  most have not held
one since the last ALAC Meeting and (EURALO was ealrier today I beleive) AND
it was only then for Nov Meeting that this option was included in the
Agenda

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> 7.  No Working Group reports were provided

<CLO> these need to be posted after their Dec meeting(s)  most have not held
one since the last ALAC Meeting and (EURALO was ealrier today I beleive) AND
it was only AFTER the Nov Meeting that this option was included in the
Agenda based on your request

> 8.  No ad-hoc committee reports were provided

<CLO> these need to be posted after their Dec meeting(s)  most have not held
one since the last ALAC Meeting and (EURALO was ealrier today I beleive) AND
it was only AFTER the Nov Meeting that this option was included in the
Agenda based on your request

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> 9.  No issues were raised for the ICANN Board meeting

<CLO> the Public Participation was and there was specific instruction to
what was to be said re new GNSO structure

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> 10.  The process for putting items on the ALAC agenda was not discussed

<CLO> ExCom will be drafting some options

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> 11.  As no ALAC members are willing to discuss whether the proposed RAA
> amendment package should be approved by the GNSO,

 <CLO> We have had discussion before including last meeting and at Cairo
which included the RALO reps... Time was limited and the issue was listed
for Decision Not discussion any way...

> the topic will be put up as a poll to ALAC members (who can click on a
> choice without having to otherwise express their views).  Alan Greenberg
> continued to press forward with his opinion that the RAA amendements package
> (unacceptable to most of us as a whole) should be accepted as a complete
> package.

<CLO>  your NARALO views can be reflected in  the votes of your Reps I would
have thought... That is the machanism is it not?

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> 12.  The other topics on the agenda that could not be discussed will in
> similar fashion be taken to a polling process and once again we will not
> hear any ALAC member discussion of these topics nor will we likely see any
> on-line discussion.

<CLO>  those listed for decision  come to the vote Discussion shou;d come
earlier And we have to deal with  limited time in meetings LOTS of close
deadlines and the idea with the PSC discussion which I assume you felt was
valid is to help prep the ALS's and RALO's do *their* policy development /
comment  work which is wher we all need to get to is it not?

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> 13.  Vanda Scartezini was nominated to serve on the GNSO's Operational
> Steering Committee (OSC) Working Group

<CLO>  please also note the advance notice to RALO's and ALS's that the
ensuing WG's from this  will require their involvement and it is there that
the real work gets done

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> 14.  The ALAC continues to pretend that there is a process in place for
> receipt of local and regional comments on new gTLDs, and will collect these
> non-existent ALS comments and will produce yet another Statement reflecting
> the views of one or two people by the end of the extended comment period.

<CLO>  RALO's are the main aggregation point they are made up of the ALS's
RALO's are the primary pont these comments  are relevent to...  Summit is a
facilitation tool in all this any chance you might allow us to see what
happens after that?

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> 15.  Once again the ALAC was barely quorate with almost half of their
> members not attending the meeting.

<CLO> regretable but we were quorate that is what matters obviously I'd
prefer a full house...  Going to  poll fpr the decisions by the way allows
for higher  participation does it not...

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> 16.  The newly ratified ALAC Executive Committee put forward no report.

<CLO> like the letter to the Board that is on my dead laptop it will be
posted...

>
> 17.  The ALAC Letter to the Board on Public Participation was finally
> posted today.  Of course, it failed to include a request to hear from the
> newly established Board Committee on Public Participation.

<CLO> actually  thanks for that observation!!!!  it was in the original => I
missed that in the re write It will be fixed in a few hours as it is now
0255 and my work day starts at 0530 I intend to put my feet up.

CLO

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Cheryl Langdon-Orr
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