[NA-Discuss] Outreach, et al

Thu Sep 20 09:10:01 EDT 2007

Well, no worries.  I'm discouraged by this whole process enough that I
won't be complaining on this front again.  It will be interesting to see
when the next "outreach" happens again in the NARALO as I'm sure that
now it WON'T happen and I am no longer willing to put myself forward for
all of the sniping.

Good luck,

D

Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
Phone:  (867) 975-6531
Fax:  (867) 979-8870
dthompson at gov.nu.ca

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick
Ashton-Hart
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:49 AM
To: Thompson, Darlene
Cc: At-Large Worldwide
Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th
InternationalPublicMeeting

Hopefully the email I sent between this one below and the present one  
will help to answer some of these points.

Since the NARALO met only in June, it has of course met in the last  
three years. I presume you are excepting this meeting from  
consideration for whatever reason.

NARALO had opportunities to meet before forming up - most recently  
earlier in the year, only a couple of months before the San Juan  
meeting, and declined the opportunity to do so.

Further, and this is particularly important: ICANN's model is not  
that work gets done at F2F meetings - but the opposite; every other  
community does the vast majority of its work between F2F meetings. It  
isn't sustainable for At-Large to do the reverse of what all other  
communities are in the habit of doing. Civil society groups in ICANN,  
in particular in the NCUC, do a considerable amount of work between  
ICANN meetings and without any travel support at all. My strong  
suggestion to everyone is to look for ways to work without requiring  
face-to-face meetings to the extent that is practicable.

On 19 Sep 2007, at 15:52, Thompson, Darlene wrote:

> Nick,
>
> Maybe because now the NARALO will now be going 3 years without a
> meeting, which the other regions would not be put through, either.
>
> NARALO didn't meet before forming up (although LAC got to meet twice);
> therefore, saving ICANN money.  Now that we did what ICANN wanted and
> rushed about getting formed up, we are being denied the opportunity  
> and
> means to do outreach for the next three years (which we asked to be  
> able
> to do), thereby stagnating.
>
> This isn't very encouraging.
>
> Darlene
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick
> Ashton-Hart
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:13 AM
> To: RJGlass | America at Large; Evan Leibovitch
> Cc: Thompson, Darlene; At-Large Worldwide
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th
> InternationalPublic Meeting
>
> RJ, why would this surprise you? Why would you expect to be hosted  
> for a
> NARALO meeting at two ICANN meetings in a row? No other region would
> receive such treatment; the budget simply doesn't make that possible.
>
>
> -- 
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>
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> ----- Original message -----
> From: "RJGlass | America at Large" <jipshida at gmail.com>
> To: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan at telly.org>
> Cc: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson at gov.nu.ca>, "At-Large Worldwide"
> <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:51:35 -0400
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Schedule Posted for ICANN's 30th International
> Public Meeting
>
> First, I'm not surprised but I am disturbed that ICANN failed to  
> host a
> NARALO meeting.
>
> Anyway, I presume we'll try to be brief yet functional on these  
> matters.
>
> I think when you announce the idea, you should solicit input on  
> what the
> ALSs want to get out of the summit.  One session on opening day  
> would be
> good, and one more later in the week, possibly 3 brief meetings  
> would be
> better than one.
>
> aloha,
> RJ
>
> On 9/18/07, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thompson, Darlene wrote:
>>
>>> I'm thinking that the sooner the better for the first one so that we
> can
>>> all get on the same page and do further planning throughout.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking more than one session will be needed.
>>>
>>> Anybody else have thoughts on this?
>>
>> My suggestion is for at least three things:
>>
>> 1) Specific inclusion of a Summit status report and discussion on the
>> ALAC meeting agenda (whenever that takes place)
>>
>> 2) A public meeting to introduce the concept to all ICANN
> constituencies
>> (early in the week)
>>
>> 3) at least eight hours of planning, of which at least one has Nick
> (or
>> someone else from ICANN staff) present. Some of this will probably be
> a
>> small enough group that it can meet in a hotel room rather than
>> requiring the expense of a formal meeting room.
>>
>> - Evan
>>
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