[NA-Discuss] [At-Large] FW: Informationonrespectful communication

Annette Muehlberg annette.muehlberg at web.de
Mon Oct 29 20:48:33 EDT 2007


who is attending the for individual users really important new gTLD workshop right now? 

best regards
annette 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jacqueline A. Morris 
  To: 'Robert Guerra' ; 'NA Discuss' 
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] FW: Informationonrespectful communication


  Robert

  Not at all.

  And I told you that in my reply to your private email to me.

  Mis-representing what I said is not kosher at all.

   

  I sent some info that was sent to me by Frank after a discussion with several people about how to improve the respect in online communication. He is the ICANN expert in this.  This is a follow up to the emails I have sent previously on list communication.

   

  With regard to who has contacted the Ombudsman to date about emails sent to the public list (NOT the NARALO list)  - I cannot say, as Ombudsman referrals are confidential and he hasn’t told me anything about that. Others have however indicated to me that they have considered approaching or have approached him about some emails on the public list. I haven’t been informed by anyone about complaints to him on any communication on the NARALO list to date.

   

  That is the correct information, and I hope that you will correct any emails that you have sent out with the erroneous information .

   

  Jacquelin

   

   

  From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists at privaterra.info] 
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 17:03
  To: NA Discuss
  Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] FW: Information onrespectful communication

   

  As some of you might have seen. it seem that Jacqueline thinks that comments from myself and others on NA RALO are soo inappropiate that it requires a referral to the ombudsman for his comment.

   

  Frankly, i'm amazed and shocked. I ask that if you feel strongly on this that you comment - ASAP.

   

  thanks

   

  Robert

   

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  From: Robert Guerra <lists at privaterra.info>

  Date: October 29, 2007 4:59:08 PM PDT

  To: At-Large Global List <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>

  Subject: Re: [At-Large] FW: Information onrespectful communication

   

  Jacqueline:

   

  Huh ! 

   

  Either don't understand your email, or am so surprised that as outgoing chair you would take such an action. To be hones, after a productive and team building day yesterday - you take this bombshell and drop this on us.  i'm frankly shocked ...

   

   

  I am assuming correctly that differences of opinion are such that you - in your own personal capacity - are asking the  ombudsman to pass a judgement on individuals in at-large that are exercising their freedom of speech?

   

  An action such as a referral should be done in consultation with the ALAC, and not done on your whim. Please seek the support of your peers, to take such drastic steps.

   

  Might I suggest that - instead - you seek the input of the alac, and see if indeed we concur with your course of action. If obtain support, fine. If not, then no course of action - should be obtain.

   

   

  In summary - I think I speak for many of those on the ALAC in saying, please seeking clarify your proposed actions. Personally, I think they are most inappropriate.

   

   

  regards,

   

  Robert

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  Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.ca>

  Managing Director, Privaterra

  Tel +1 416 893 0377

   

   

   

  On 29-Oct-07, at 4:01 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:

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    Dear all

    As so many of the postings to this list are so disrespectful I have asked the Ombudsman for his input informally, before he gets brought into it formally by people who this has affected negatively. He has offered the following. Please read and attempt to follow some of the  suggestions in the documents he has sent, so we can all work productively.

    Jacqueline

     

    From: frank.fowlie [mailto:frank.fowlie at icann.org] 
    Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 15:51
    To: jacqueline Morris
    Subject:

     

    wellington comment  from page 6 on

     

    and

     

     

    http://www.icann.org/ombudsman/respectful-communication.pdf

     

    Frank Fowlie, MACAM 
    Ombudsman 
      
    The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) 
    4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 
    Marina del Rey 
    California, USA, 90292 
      
    tel: +310-823-9358 
    fax: +310-823-8649 
      
    www.icannombudsman.org

    The Values of this Office are: 
    -Respect for Diversity; 
    -Excellence in Ombudsmanship; 
    -Professionalism; 
    -Confidentiality; 
    -Impartiality; 
    -and Independence.

     

     

   

   

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