[NA-Discuss] Getting the WHOIS word out to users

RJGlass | America@Large jipshida at gmail.com
Mon Oct 22 10:02:09 EDT 2007


I agree Ross, Finally !!


On 10/19/07, Ross Rader <ross at tucows.com> wrote:
>
> John L wrote:
>
> > Were it to pass, the people who use WHOIS data would just sue to
> > maintain the status quo.  The position of the US DOC (the position which
> > matters the most) is quite clear from the requirements they put in the
> > .US rebid so ICANN's track record of caving to legal threats would
> > remain unbroken.
>
> Let them sue. I'm sure my government would love this.
>
> > it's not abuse that the info itself is public.
>
> No, of course not. But its the accessibility and anonymity that fosters
> the abuse. Anyways, not really point. The example my link pointed to was
> of a service that consists of illegitimately scraped Whois data going
> back many, many years that now serves to provide contact information for
> natural persons completely outside of the scope and purpose for which it
> was originally collected.
>
> > A good place for negotiations to start would be for the anti-data crowd
> > to admit that there are indeed legitimate reasons to use WHOIS info, and
> > there is not a basic right to register a domain.  (If there were such a
> > right, we wouldn't be charging for them.)  That's been sorely lacking so
> > far.
>
> I don't think anyone has ever denied a) nor claimed b). The issue comes
> down to whether or not those legitimate uses can or should be
> accommodated through the public Whois system. I don't see any reason why
> this is the cause. The ISP and Hosting industries have proven that it is
> possible to accommodate legitimate uses of customer data without making
> it publicly accessible on an anonymous basis. Its no wonder progress has
> been so difficult on this issue - the starting point for the
> anti-privacy crowd is simply so outrageous that it can't be reasonably
> addressed.
>
>
>
> -r
>
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